The one thing that absolutely infuriates me about this Ukrainian shakedown.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

Trump's own campaign manager was paid millions of dollars off the books from the billions of dollars raided from the Ukrainian treasury by the Putin stooge Viktor Yankuovych.

That money was money stolen from the Ukrainian citizens, money that could have paid for better roads, utilities, services, etc. When I visited Ukraine this summer, one of my relatives noted to me how horrible the roads had deteriorated under Yanukovych and how only after he fled for Russia did the situation improve.

So now Donald Trump, who employed the convicted felon Paul Manafort, has the audacity to shake down Ukraine and demand that they investigate "corruption", meaning manufacturing non-existent dirt on Joe Biden? And if they don't, they lose out on aid they would have otherwise received?

He's got no call to be that sort of situation. None whatsoever.

It's appalling to the absolute highest degree.

[Freethinker65]

1. Trump always does this. He accuses others of things he, or his friends and family, have do

The media chases Trump's narrative.

[dalton99a]

2. And he knows he is in the driver's seat

[Mike 03]

3. Something I've wondered about

If there is any way for the Ukrainian people to take a case against Yanukovych to some international court, because it's almost certain he's hidden away millions if not billions of Ukrainian money. I guess he's being protected in Russia now. Yanukovych never faced justice. That's got to be an open wound for Ukrainians.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. I believe he was tried in abstentia.

And convicted.

But I don't know if there would be an International Court that they could turn to.

Russia will never release him back to Ukraine.