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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi will change her mind
on impeachment...probably in the next few days. The tide seems to be turning with this Ukraine whistleblower issue. This is just my feeling...and hope. Hold on to your butts folks.
madaboutharry
(40,150 posts)I would be very surprised if there is not a press conference in which she announces just that.
mindfulNJ
(2,363 posts)Agree completely
JI7
(89,174 posts)and being sure they have enough votes to pass .
that will change too in the coming days.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)I donated to and help elect two Democrats who flipped red seats to blue in Texas. These two Democrats are being targeted by the GOP. There are also six other house seats that the Texas Democratic Party and the DCCC are targeting. All of these seats may be hurt by impeachment.
There are 40 democrats who are in seats that are vulnerable. Pelosi is not going to do anything to hurt the chances of these Democrats
Link to tweet
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,036 posts)WE need to make noise where those constituents can hear us and call those Reps.
Meanwhile, the rest need to stop threatening subpoenas and just do it. Arrest the obstructing bastards if necessary, but continue exposing the lawlessness. It drags on for far too long between tiny events of action.
Phoenix61
(16,952 posts)she can honestly say she is moving forward with impeachment because she has to, not because she wants to. That there is so much popular demand for that action.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)Link to tweet
The Washington Post has been tracking which members of the House Democratic caucus support impeaching Trump. Since the beginning of the year, the number who do has increased significantly, picking up speed in earnest after the release of former special counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIs report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. (One Republican joined the impeachment calls before leaving his party in July: Justin Amash (I-Mich.).)
Notice that bar on the far right, though. It signifies the number of votes needed to have a majority in the House. And although more than half of Democrats support impeachment publicly, nearly all of the caucus would need to support such a vote if Republicans remain unified in opposition to it. The light blue on that chart indicates Democrats who havent weighed in on impeachment or who are opposed to it but nearly all of those members explicitly oppose an impeachment effort.
Pelosi is good at counting votes and right now the votes are not there to impeach
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)To make the case to non-Trumpy Americans that we tried to avoid this mess, I mean.
stopbush
(24,376 posts)and that they keep making up new reasons for impeachment when the old ones get shot down.
The media will take up this mantra. They are already doing so, down playing the Russiagare crimes as being too hard to understand, and therefore, not impeachable.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)Right now, Pelosi does not have the votes for impeachment. We will know when the votes are there if the districts described below start to flip. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/23/how-well-know-if-impeachment-dam-starts-break/
By my count, there are 19 districts that comprise those three categories: Each one was decided within single digits and was swiped from a GOP incumbent in 2018 and was carried by Trump in 2016. I matched these up against this full list of where Democratic lawmakers stand on an impeachment inquiry.
It turns out that in 18 of these 19 districts, the Democratic lawmaker has not come out for an impeachment inquiry. Thats not too surprising, but it underscores just how difficult Democrats in those types of places think the politics of their districts make it for them to support even an inquiry, which, you will recall, is merely the start of the process, not the impeachment vote itself.
Heres a list of those 18 members: Reps. Abigail Spanberger, Elaine Luria, Ben McAdams, Joe Cunningham, Kendra Horn, Anthony Brindisi, Antonio Delgado, Max Rose, Xochitl Torres Small, Andy Kim, Jeff Van Drew, Angie Craig, Haley Stevens, Elissa Slotkin, Jared Golden, Cindy Axne, Abby Finkenauer and Lucy McBath. The only one in that category to come out for an inquiry is Rep. Underwood.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)I have contributed to the Democrats who flipped two districts in Texas. These Democrats were in district that Clinton carried and these Democrats are being targeted by the RNC. Here is more on this category https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/23/how-well-know-if-impeachment-dam-starts-break/
A bit more than half of those districts are represented by Democrats who still havent come out for an impeachment inquiry. They include: Reps. Colin Allred, Lizzie Fletcher, Matthew Cartwright, Steven Horsford, Susie Lee, Collin C. Peterson, Sharice Davids, Donna Shalala, Gil Cisneros, TJ Cox, Josh Harder and Tom OHalleran.
In addition, in Texas we have six districts that trump carried but which the Texas Democratic Party and the DCCC think can be flipped. Pelosi is not call a vote unless she is sure that this will not hurt the Democrats in the House and those running for flippable seats.
chowder66
(9,011 posts)plaster across the media. Until documents, tapes, memos, etc come in she won't say she supports it. Once something comes in that is good enough she will call for it.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)egduj
(804 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Members of her caucus are changing their minds.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)if they don't might as well give #fatdonnie the keys to it all