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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoaquin Castro: "If the whistle-blower information isn't brought to Congress by Thursday..."
Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-TX) was interviewed by Chris Hayes after a week of breaking news on the whistleblower allegations of wrongdoing by the president involving Ukraine.
I sit on the Intelligence Committee and cant speak to what we were briefed on last week by the Inspector General, but between Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani, they basically confirmed about seventy-five percent of the reporting, Castro noted.
And I believe that the Speaker has laid down a gauntlet and asked that the whistle-blower information be brought to Congress by Thursday. If that information is not presented on Friday we should move forward with a formal impeachment proceeding.
Wait a second, so you think thats it? Hayes asked. Thats essentially the straw that breaks the camels back, which is if they dont provide the whistle-blower complaint, its not a subpoena or fight in the courts, the compelling requires it moving forward formally with impeachment?
Right, Castro replied.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/the-speaker-has-laid-down-the-gauntlet-joaquin-castro-predicts-impeachment-may-come-on-friday/
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Impeachment is coming.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...if impeachment isn't coming, it's going to be a shock.
Trump is getting far too "emboldened" to let him go much further. No, impeachment won't be smooth sailing, but it seems like we are past the point of having this sorted out in November 2020.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)However the chips fall and however it affects the election, we don't know, can't predict the future.
So - let's go! Better to have tried and fail than not try at all.
PSPS
(13,579 posts)Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Still have to prepare, go into expecting success and TRY with all they've got, with the Constitution in their corner.
ancianita
(35,932 posts)Then we'll know what it takes for Democracy to go down.
There's no better hill to die on than this hill called rule of Law.
We might be surprised about who turns up on this hill. It might even be SCOTUS.
Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)BlueWI
(1,736 posts)It's already happened, repeatedly, looking at the crystal clear and obvious record of corruption that Trump brought into the White House, with no slacking once he got there.
There is no real choice other than impeachment.
ZZenith
(4,115 posts)bluestarone
(16,859 posts)We will need lots of help from the courts i'm afraid! BUT has to be done! Do or die.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Havent they said that they asked Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election? Regardless of whether there was a bribe or an extortion attempt its an intolerable abuse of power that cannot be solved by an election
Dont count on an election where the president says he will use the power of the presidency to get re-elected.
My two cents.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)But I see no way that it succeeds. But what will be interesting is how the Republicans up for reelection in 2020 will vote. Will they be allowed to vote for his conviction knowing that there will not be enough total votes? Or will they double-cross Donnie and convict him, thus ending America's nightmare?
There is part of me that wonders if Moscow Mitch and Pelosi have secret meetings over a little bourbon. Moscow Mitch says, I'll tell you when he's gone too far. Just sit tight.
If they wait just long enough to convict, those Senators up for reelection can keep from getting primaried.
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Hopefully none among Democrats in the Senate. I actually don't think that a party line Senate acquittal does much for Trump or his party in 2020.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)But let's see what happens Friday.
Maybe relief from the corruption is in sight!
LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)He won't even bring it up for a vote
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)In fact, I even used that argument before as a reason to hold off on impeaching. Others countered with the argument that he had no choice. But I'm still not convinced that he couldn't decide to do nothing. Who will hold him accountable?
The thing is, the media will compare Trump using aid to try to leverage an investigation against Biden with Clinton lying about sex. So maybe media and them popular opinion will shame Moscow Mitch into holding a trial. Who knows, maybe the traction the name Moscow Mitch has gotten will cause him to act.
Takket
(21,528 posts)pelosi has committed to this path of litigating McGhan, taxes, etc for months in the courts and i think she wants him to sit through impeachment during next spring and summer when he should be campaigning. so i doubt this changes anything but will also be litigated for months in the courts and eventually heaped on top of the massive pile of articles of impeachment.
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)That she wanted to time impeachment later as you described to interrupt Trump's campaigning. Anything else smells of cowardice and really that goes for all our present Dem "leaders" not to single her out in particular. I've not been this disgusted with my party this much ever in the past 50 years I've paid attention to politics. Seriously. Hopefully, this gets turned around or we are finished as a country.
ffr
(22,665 posts)I mean my fellow democrats. Well, same thing.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Otherwise we would have seen months ago with Barrs lying to congress and ignored subpoenas.
Trump is laughing, appointing more judges and undoing decades of laws, rules and regulations and all has had thrown at him are strongly worded letters.
Grins
(7,195 posts)The Rs wouldnt. For a nanosecond. What a shit Party I have voted for all my life.
Put it ALL on the line, MFs!!
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Im tired of the Democratic bashing that is prevalent on this site
Fritz Walter
(4,290 posts)Whether to show support for the Dems who show they have spines, or to prompt the spineless ones to act, we should take to the streets.
Im not calling for pitchforks (at least not yet), but we need to do much more than vent our collective spleen here and elsewhere.
Action. Now!
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I want punishment for the traitorous KGOP regime.
Looking at you and your wife, Moscow Mitch!
You will never forget orange!
CaptainTruth
(6,576 posts)This could be "ironclad" time.
ooky
(8,908 posts)Tar and feather that fat lying imperious basturd!
Qutzupalotl
(14,286 posts)considering how he obstructs the process and denies legitimate oversight.
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)that ANYONE would say "Well, the dems tried to impeach and it didn't work, so I'm voting for trump." The only dipshits who would say that are the dipshits who are already going to vote for him.
Impeachment should have already started because it's the right thing to do.
ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)I just don't understand the people who think impeachment helps Trump politically. Not one single person who wasn't already going to vote for him is going to vote for him based upon impeachment. It make no sense at all to believe people who weren't going to vote for him all of a sudden would because the Senate GOP refuses to remove him for..... wait for it... clear crimes. Its like you can't get people(democrats) to understand this isn't about lying to investigators about an inappropriate sexual relationship with an intern - its about breaking god damn laws and violating his oath to office.