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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI need some help in getting a greater understanding some of this. (timing ??)
When did Trump try to get info on Biden? Was it last year? 2018 or just a few months ago? This is late September. July 2019 is 2 months ago. Perhaps I got my facts wrong. Was it this year, or was it last year?
Thanks for update and info. Some of this is very hard to believe.
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I need some help in getting a greater understanding some of this. (timing ??) (Original Post)
Stuart G
Sep 2019
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I think it was this spring rudy who sleeps upsidedown in a cave first talked about it.
applegrove
Sep 2019
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The date of the phone call was July 25, 2019, but he was trying earlier than that
Dennis Donovan
Sep 2019
#2
applegrove
(118,582 posts)1. I think it was this spring rudy who sleeps upsidedown in a cave first talked about it.
Don't know when Trump got involved as the heavy.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)2. The date of the phone call was July 25, 2019, but he was trying earlier than that
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-the-us-political-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK
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The following timeline details key moments in the Biden familys involvement in Ukrainian affairs and Trumps effort to use those actions as political ammunition.
April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraines capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the countrys government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burismas founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britains Serious Fraud Office.
Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine like a cancer. Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraines top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.
Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutors termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.
March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.
Jan. 23, 2018: Biden, at a Council on Foreign Relations event, detailed how he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine if Shokin was not removed.
April 2019: Hunter Bidens term as a Burisma board member expired and he stepped down from the company.
May 16, 2019: Bloomberg quotes Ukraines current top prosecutor as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden or his father.
May 11, 2019: Trumps lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said he was canceling a planned trip to Ukraine. Giuliani came under criticism from Democratic lawmakers after saying in media interviews that he had planned to meet with Ukraines new leaders and push for investigations that could help Trump.
July 25, 2019: Trump spoke with Zelenskiy and reportedly pressured him to investigate Hunter Biden.
Aug. 12, 2019: A whistleblower from within the intelligence community lodged a complaint with a internal watchdog that reportedly focused on Trumps contacts with Ukraine.
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<snip>
The following timeline details key moments in the Biden familys involvement in Ukrainian affairs and Trumps effort to use those actions as political ammunition.
April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraines capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the countrys government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burismas founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britains Serious Fraud Office.
Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine like a cancer. Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraines top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.
Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutors termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.
March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.
Jan. 23, 2018: Biden, at a Council on Foreign Relations event, detailed how he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine if Shokin was not removed.
April 2019: Hunter Bidens term as a Burisma board member expired and he stepped down from the company.
May 16, 2019: Bloomberg quotes Ukraines current top prosecutor as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden or his father.
May 11, 2019: Trumps lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said he was canceling a planned trip to Ukraine. Giuliani came under criticism from Democratic lawmakers after saying in media interviews that he had planned to meet with Ukraines new leaders and push for investigations that could help Trump.
July 25, 2019: Trump spoke with Zelenskiy and reportedly pressured him to investigate Hunter Biden.
Aug. 12, 2019: A whistleblower from within the intelligence community lodged a complaint with a internal watchdog that reportedly focused on Trumps contacts with Ukraine.
</snip>
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)5. Thank You Dennis for that outstanding time line...I will look at it carefully.
ramblin_dave
(1,546 posts)3. Rolling Stone article
What Actually Happened Between Joe Biden and Ukraine, Explained
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-tweet-888662/
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)4. Thank You very much for that article. I will read it carefully...