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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsInstead of 'No Collusion!' Trump Now Seems to Be Saying, So What if I Did?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/us/politics/trump-ukraine-collusion.htmlWASHINGTON The last time he was accused of collaborating with a foreign power to influence an election, he denied it and traveled the country practically chanting, No collusion! This time, he is saying, in effect, so what if I did?
Even for a leader who has audaciously disregarded many of the boundaries that restrained his predecessors, President Trumps appeal to a foreign power for dirt on former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. is an astonishing breach of the norms governing the American presidency.
That his phone call with Ukraines leader took place literally the day after the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III testified to Congress about Russian interference in the 2016 election demonstrated that Mr. Trump took no lessons from that episode about the perils and propriety of mixing his own political interests with international relations.
If anything, the president has grown even more defiant since Mr. Mueller found insufficient evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, almost as if having avoided charges, he is daring the establishment to come after him again. The man who once said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan without consequence seems to be testing whether he can do the political equivalent.
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Instead of 'No Collusion!' Trump Now Seems to Be Saying, So What if I Did? (Original Post)
Demovictory9
Sep 2019
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elleng
(130,895 posts)1. Right, that's the way he runs,
is his last 'meme.'
Stuart G
(38,423 posts)2. I believe Trump has stepped over that line. It is not if he goes, it is now, "when he goes, not if"
To clarify: Trump clearly broke the law by trying to get dirt on Biden from a Ukraine leader.
In my opinion, Trump's arrogance has destroyed his presidency.(his arrogance tells him he can get away with anything, but he can't) It is only a question in my mind of.. when it all plays out..
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)3. its more like he is saying fuck you
and what are ya gonna do about it?
no_hypocrisy
(46,097 posts)4. Implied: "And I'd do it again!"