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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:01 AM Sep 2019

Was the American experiment really that much of a failure for Americans to have "elected" Trump?

Last edited Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:49 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm old school. I was taught to believe the rule of law, pluralism, majority rule/minority rights, and the sanctity of the ballot were bedrock values worth defending. Then a malignant clown comes along who doesn't know of these values and couldn't care less about them is elected president.

It's depressing how many people have surrendered their rights because democracy is hard.

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Was the American experiment really that much of a failure for Americans to have "elected" Trump? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 OP
Well, there was what happened Turbineguy Sep 2019 #1
This is no different than our failure in Afghanistan and Iraq, we were unprepared to deal with ... Snake Plissken Sep 2019 #2
I don't believe Americans did elect him, duforsure Sep 2019 #3
What if "we" re-elect" him? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #4
It's only hard because Reagan gutted our educational system. Initech Sep 2019 #5
We took certain things for granted. That was a mistake. gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #6
Traitor Trump is capitalism killing democracy Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #7

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
1. Well, there was what happened
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:14 AM
Sep 2019

in the land of Beethoven, Goethe and Kant.

What the Founders did was correct. But as you say, democracy is hard. Sometimes.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
2. This is no different than our failure in Afghanistan and Iraq, we were unprepared to deal with ...
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:23 AM
Sep 2019

Advancements in technology

In Afghanistan and Iraq our arrogance and short sightedness failed to see that the billions we spend in military hardware is pretty much ineffective against insurgents with $10 remote activated explosives triggered by cell phones.

With Trump our arrogance and short sightedness failed to see that coordinated trolls from outside the country could poison entire segments of the population with lies and propaganda in order to get a pile of shit like Trump elected.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
5. It's only hard because Reagan gutted our educational system.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

Creating entire generations of people who don't read or think for themselves. They'd rather have critical news and information read and interpreted to them. Then wash, rinse and repeat for 40 years and that's how we get a populace who's stupid enough to elect someone like Trump.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
7. Traitor Trump is capitalism killing democracy
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:48 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Where are our American oligarchs? Why are all those filthy rich capitalist, like the Google billionaires, allowing the US to be represented by a f*cking idiot orange wannabe mobster?

And the answer is......they don't want democracy. They are fine with the little man in Russia ruling the US. They are amassing our national wealth for themselves and that is all they care about. This is the terminal stage of capitalism that Marx predicted.

It's ironic that the final death blow to democracy in the US comes from capitalists in Russia.

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