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MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:53 PM Sep 2019

If an impeachment inquiry is started, I predict Trump will withdraw

his release of the transcript he announced today. "Come and get it, Nancy," he'll say, essentially. Shortly afterwards, he will begin a rage tweet session that may never end.

That's my prediction.

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If an impeachment inquiry is started, I predict Trump will withdraw (Original Post) MineralMan Sep 2019 OP
Bless you mainstreetonce Sep 2019 #1
Is it another ruse like his promise to release his tax returns? olegramps Sep 2019 #37
haha, "i can't release tax returns while under audit, so now i can't release the transcripts!" unblock Sep 2019 #51
Damn, you appear to have been paying very close attention to his toddler antics. lark Sep 2019 #2
If he releases a phony transcript, he will be found out. MineralMan Sep 2019 #3
Game on. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #6
But yet he will release a phony transcript Generic Brad Sep 2019 #63
He was trying to pre-empt Nancy's statement... kentuck Sep 2019 #4
I think you guys are spot-on! Blue_playwright Sep 2019 #49
what's scary is barbtries Sep 2019 #57
Or the copy that is summitted Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #5
Or it's a limited hangout, to obscure other, more damning elements of the "multiple tblue37 Sep 2019 #12
Interesting that the said Whistel Blower is now Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #16
There are 8 calls, according to the whistleblower. The other 7 are WORSE than this one, I guarantee lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #67
I just hope bdamomma Sep 2019 #7
We all hope for that, I'm sure. MineralMan Sep 2019 #9
a true shame Stormy is no longer for some mushroom 'relief' Celerity Sep 2019 #35
Spontaneous combustion. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2019 #58
That was sort of my thought. W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #8
The transcript will include 18 minutes of silence. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #13
(my thoughts exactly) ... calling Rosemary Woods, Rosemary Woods ... fierywoman Sep 2019 #26
No way that chucklefuck volstork Sep 2019 #59
True. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #62
Just ignore Dump and impeach. roamer65 Sep 2019 #10
More than 12,000 documented lies at this point mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #20
The transcript is small potatoes anyway. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2019 #11
+1 2naSalit Sep 2019 #14
Yes, it is, but it will be entertaining to watch Trump back away and rage. MineralMan Sep 2019 #15
yep. this is pure slight of hand stopdiggin Sep 2019 #17
I hope they impound Chump's cell phone FakeNoose Sep 2019 #18
Has anyone considered Trump wants to release a transcript that shows he's guilty? Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #19
He wants it Nasruddin Sep 2019 #36
At this point he thinks he is beyond reproach Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #48
Maybe in his head. Does not comport with his other behavior. Caliman73 Sep 2019 #53
He try to pull a fast one duforsure Sep 2019 #21
has he ordered a new box of Sharpies? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #22
I think this plays right into what he enjoys the most, chaos. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #23
Moscow Mitch is sanitizing it already bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #24
Rage tweet is the road rage of the internet bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #25
I wouldn't trust his transcript as far as I can throw a grand piano. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #27
Barr and 'massaged it' and Rump should NEVER be in the same sentence Celerity Sep 2019 #40
Now you made me think some terrible and disgusting thoughts. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #41
sawwwwwy Celerity Sep 2019 #43
I could see that Bradical79 Sep 2019 #28
I predict the transcript will be fake. Kingofalldems Sep 2019 #29
No way! Nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #30
It doesn't matter cmeneer Sep 2019 #31
Trump is crazy enough to put out a fake transcript ritapria Sep 2019 #32
I predict Trump will fight to the bitter end. That is what he does berni_mccoy Sep 2019 #33
He's a loser bdamomma Sep 2019 #60
He could be making arrangements to skip town some dark night. calimary Sep 2019 #34
What Has Trump Promised Tomorrow DallasNE Sep 2019 #38
If he releases the transcript, it's because the complaint is worse William Seger Sep 2019 #39
I don't see that happening yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #42
He's going to play the victim card probably too. Brainfodder Sep 2019 #44
Jill Wine-Banks was on Stephanie Miller this morning, recounting how Nixon... 3catwoman3 Sep 2019 #45
You may be right. I keep wondering why scaramucci Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #46
HE will release the transcript (not the complaint) and says it exhonerates him JCMach1 Sep 2019 #47
I may actually break down and watch some faux newz just to watch the spin erronis Sep 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Sep 2019 #52
I think you are right Generic Other Sep 2019 #54
I don't think it matters since the transcript will be the "Trump edition." Vinca Sep 2019 #55
just as likely imo barbtries Sep 2019 #56
Very possibly. MineralMan Sep 2019 #64
yep. barbtries Sep 2019 #69
I agree randr Sep 2019 #61
I think he'll withdraw his release of the transcript... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #65
LOL! MineralMan Sep 2019 #66
I would not be surprised. Tipperary Sep 2019 #68

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
37. Is it another ruse like his promise to release his tax returns?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:28 PM
Sep 2019

It scenario could go something like this: I promised to release the transcripts until I was faced with a vicious attack by lying scam bag Democrats and on the advice of my attorney, i.e., alias: Ghouliani, I will direct there release 100 years after my death.

unblock

(52,089 posts)
51. haha, "i can't release tax returns while under audit, so now i can't release the transcripts!"
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 05:08 PM
Sep 2019

"see, it's all nancy's fault for investigating me!"

lark

(23,058 posts)
2. Damn, you appear to have been paying very close attention to his toddler antics.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:57 PM
Sep 2019

I agree this could easily happen. However, I could also see him releasing a totally phoney lie and call it the transcript.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
63. But yet he will release a phony transcript
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 11:28 PM
Sep 2019

He’s the ballsiest character in the history of this country. I expect nothing less than another criminal act in response from him.

kentuck

(111,036 posts)
4. He was trying to pre-empt Nancy's statement...
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:59 PM
Sep 2019

...I doubt that he has any intent of turning anything over. He does and says stuff like this to buy time. He always has.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Or the copy that is summitted
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:59 PM
Sep 2019

will be so redacted that it will be meaningless. Bill Barr will do his best to work the come and get it.

tblue37

(65,206 posts)
12. Or it's a limited hangout, to obscure other, more damning elements of the "multiple
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

instances" cited by the whistleblower.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. Interesting that the said Whistel Blower is now
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:09 PM
Sep 2019

wanted to speak directly to the Schiff Committee.

Watch Trump head to the Court House in the next hour to block this. As one of the Watergate investigators said,do not trust the Transcript. Nixon's Aides were masters of deceit and omissions.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
67. There are 8 calls, according to the whistleblower. The other 7 are WORSE than this one, I guarantee
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 09:34 AM
Sep 2019

We need the fucking tapes, not some made-up "transcript."

Celerity

(43,039 posts)
35. a true shame Stormy is no longer for some mushroom 'relief'
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019

I guess he will have to settle for self service

W_HAMILTON

(7,828 posts)
8. That was sort of my thought.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:02 PM
Sep 2019

Given that Trump's announcement of releasing the transcript came just a few minutes before the big media outlets reported that Pelosi was going to announce formal impeachment proceedings later today, my guess is that he heard through the grapevine that she was going to do this so he offered up the transcript just to pull the offer back later today and blame it on Pelosi threatening impeachment. Let's see if he actually goes through with releasing the transcript...

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. Just ignore Dump and impeach.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:03 PM
Sep 2019

Everything he says is a lie. It’s as constant as the North Star with him. All LIES.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
11. The transcript is small potatoes anyway.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:03 PM
Sep 2019

The big prize will be the whistleblower's complaint and the IG's report that's now being held up by the White House. The transcript is secondary.

stopdiggin

(11,232 posts)
17. yep. this is pure slight of hand
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:10 PM
Sep 2019

no one every thought that a single phone call was the whole deal here. Multiple contacts, by multiple different players. The offer to release a "transcript" just looks silly. (although FOX might be all in)

FakeNoose

(32,530 posts)
18. I hope they impound Chump's cell phone
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:11 PM
Sep 2019

That would put an end to the rage tweeting, am I right?

Also Rudy G. needs to be held and interrogated by real intelligence agents - not TV reporters. Get his testimony all on tape, but don't televise it live. If it's televised, Chump will watch and find some way to interfere with it. Once Rudy is pinned down with his testimony on tape, then interview Chump and watch him lie his ass off trying to save himself.

This can all be done in the next few days. Probably the sooner the better.

If they do get Chump's cell phone, it would be interesting to see how many calls he's had with his Russian buddies - in the last week or two.

Johnny2X2X

(18,949 posts)
19. Has anyone considered Trump wants to release a transcript that shows he's guilty?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:17 PM
Sep 2019

Gangster mentality. He knows his crimes don't matter to his voters, he knows Moscow Mitch in the Senate will protect him. So he wants the world to know he is above the law. It's a gangster tactic and sends a message that he can do what he wants.

Nasruddin

(749 posts)
36. He wants it
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:27 PM
Sep 2019

I agree- it could show the world he’s in charge of this.
I’ve been thinking he wants to be impeached - nothing works better for his whiny narc MO than this kind of spectacle. But maybe his handlers want a demo of power.

I think it’s bad strategy tho - there are lots of other sharks & They may have plans of their own.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
48. At this point he thinks he is beyond reproach
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:46 PM
Sep 2019

All we need is the Republicans to vote unanimously to convict. I honestly don't think Trump's base of toothless racists can bite hard enough to break the skin.

Caliman73

(11,719 posts)
53. Maybe in his head. Does not comport with his other behavior.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 05:15 PM
Sep 2019

He has fought like hell to keep his tax returns from being seen by anyone. He fought like hell to keep people from talking to Mueller. He talks real tough about his information and how powerful he is, but he has fought tooth and nail to actually prevent anything from being released.

This transcript that he is releasing is in all probability altered and worthless. He is going to scream and use all methods legal and otherwise, at his disposal to keep the actual complaint from being released or the actual whistleblower from disclosing any information.

He is a WANNABE gangster.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
21. He try to pull a fast one
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:34 PM
Sep 2019

Bypassing Congress and all courts with a declaration, but it will fail.he's a career criminal, and if he's not stopped he'll get much worse for everyone,everywhere.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,227 posts)
22. has he ordered a new box of Sharpies?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:37 PM
Sep 2019

If there's a delivery of new Sharpies to the WH, he'll release a transcript, else, he's stalling.

bucolic_frolic

(42,990 posts)
24. Moscow Mitch is sanitizing it already
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:15 PM
Sep 2019

stating Trump gave no reason for withholding Ukraine funds authorized by Congress.

You don't need a reason to establish a quid pro quo with multiple moving parts and entities. The sleight-of-hand does that just fine.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,523 posts)
27. I wouldn't trust his transcript as far as I can throw a grand piano.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:18 PM
Sep 2019

Bill Barr will have massaged it somehow, if Spanky doesn't personally take his Sharpie to it.

cmeneer

(253 posts)
31. It doesn't matter
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

As I've heard discussed on the MSNBC panel, we don't need the transcript. The quid pro co may not be in the transcript. The deals were probably made back channeled. The whistleblower knows the story. That testimony will tell the tale.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
33. I predict Trump will fight to the bitter end. That is what he does
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:22 PM
Sep 2019

Even when he knows he’s already lost.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
34. He could be making arrangements to skip town some dark night.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:24 PM
Sep 2019

He may need to call somebody in Russia about a place to hide.

I STILL think when the heat grows too hot he’ll grab Ivanka and Melania (in that order) and call for an unmarked helicopter to meet him on the White House grounds at 3am on a moonless night.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
38. What Has Trump Promised Tomorrow
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:28 PM
Sep 2019

He offered an unredacted transcript. What does that mean exactly? If it is edited then no redactions are necessary because it will have already been scrubbed.

Second, that is just one aspect of the whistleblower complaint so we still need to see the whistleblower complaint that was described as alarming.

Yes, I agree, the offer was only a carrot to head off a formal impeachment inquiry. When that doesn't work, he will withdraw the offer. That is why is was made for tomorrow, after today's meeting. It has not been offered in good faith.

William Seger

(10,766 posts)
39. If he releases the transcript, it's because the complaint is worse
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:29 PM
Sep 2019

e.g. based on additional info, events or context. However, the complaint is what Congress has a clear legal right to, and I think they should stay away from the transcripts unless Trump denies that the complaint is factually accurate.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
42. I don't see that happening
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:34 PM
Sep 2019

If anything, he will probably barricade himself in the White House and fight anyone who tries to remove him from office...He will not go quietly.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
44. He's going to play the victim card probably too.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:37 PM
Sep 2019

FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWZ! FAQ NEWS!

He & the Sean Hannity network have been planting the seed of doubt for 3 years, can't expect anything but that echoed back by any and all ignoramuses still solidly believing him STILL, plus all the bad operators trying to keep him in power?

3catwoman3

(23,931 posts)
45. Jill Wine-Banks was on Stephanie Miller this morning, recounting how Nixon...
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:39 PM
Sep 2019

...tried to get away with releasing transcripts, and was told that was a no-go - He had to cough up the actual tapes. I hope that happens now, as well.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
47. HE will release the transcript (not the complaint) and says it exhonerates him
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:45 PM
Sep 2019

followed by rage tweeting...

erronis

(15,160 posts)
50. I may actually break down and watch some faux newz just to watch the spin
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Sep 2019

Now, I need to find out how to turn on my non-existent T.V. and turn the knob to channel ??

Or I can go to a local airport lobby or some sports bar.

Theatrix will abound!

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
64. Very possibly.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 09:26 AM
Sep 2019

I don't know how we'll tell, though. We need the audio recordings that were used to prepare the transcripts.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
69. yep.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:23 AM
Sep 2019

so i'm watching the Last Word and he has a guest on who says there is not a recording. that surprised me.

any transcript from trump cannot be trusted.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
65. I think he'll withdraw his release of the transcript...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 09:31 AM
Sep 2019

...because one of his smarter aides will tell him transcripts aren't typically hand-written in Sharpie.

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