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I know that Pence is not the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but surely he knows that Trump's goose is cooked. Pence is probably up to his eyeballs in this mess. He's been such a loyal Trump ass-kisser, I await to see how he attempts to get out from under the on-coming mud slide.
Me.
(35,454 posts)JCMach1
(27,556 posts)phylny
(8,379 posts)He will suck at Trump's teat until it's dry, then he'll keep on sucking because he won't know what else to do.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Trump loses the 2020 election and during the lame-duck period he pardons everyone in his administration. Then he resigns making Pence president. (Ugh!) Pence then issues a pardon for Trump. Then in January, the new Democratic president is sworn in.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)because there are no boundaries and no bottom, when it comes to Trump
onetexan
(13,036 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Trump has always worried about the thing in front of him at that moment. He is not a strategic or long-term thinker.
So, if he can beat any Federal charges, he lives for another day.
As a New York Democrat, I think our Attorney General, Lititia James, is going to take Trump down. I think she'll put his lying ass in jail.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)exactly what NY needed.
Meadowoak
(5,545 posts)Vinca
(50,266 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)To be replaced by Nikki Haley and whatever.
Watch Romney.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)She's smarter than that.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)It will be a one act play that lasts till January of 2021.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)she sees the Trump ship going down and is looking forward to be the "good" Repub in 2024.
She got out of working for Trump pretty clean. Why would she dive back in?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)She suffers from the D.C. virus.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)Nikki likes to represent herself as the voice of reason.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)you think he might primary the MF? Or watch him how?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)We are in Jerry Ford Country.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Never thought of that. Its possible.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the RNC is run by Mitts Niece.
dchill
(38,472 posts)he can't jump ship.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)He'll pick something/one even worse - his version of impeachment insurance. Just case he is reelected.
tavernier
(12,377 posts)Once he thinks Trump is finished.
tableturner
(1,681 posts)He's a key participant.....some Pence quotes from here (much more at the link):
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pence-gave-ukraine-the-message-too
"Well, on the first question, the answer is no. But we with President Zelensky yesterday, we discussed we discussed Americas support for Ukraine and the upcoming decision the President will make on the latest tranche of financial support in great detail."
"But as President Trump had me make clear, we have great concerns about issues of corruption."
"But I called on him to work with us to engage our European partners to participate at a greater level in Ukraine, and also told him that I would carry back to President Trump the progress that he and his administration in Ukraine are making on dealing with corruption in their country."
Edited to add: HE'S GOING DOWN TOO!"
Iterate
(3,020 posts)so no jumping. I get the impression he always stands in the middle of the elevator and waits for someone else to push the button.
unblock
(52,196 posts)Either he defends Donnie, or he goes radio silent. Those are the only options.
He simply cannot act like he's rooting to become president via impeachment.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And is talking, and getting offered a deal to not pardon trump , and step down after trump is forced out of office. He also knows trump wants him gone and replaced because he doesn't trust him either. Pence will get off to help trumps prosecution, not pardon him, and to help go after others close to trump.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Tells him to.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)His only hope is impeachment and removal, in which case he gets to be president until the Democrat wins in 2020. If he is not also forced out.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Trump gets impeached or resigns, he's President.
Or, if the ticket gets defeated next year, he's a front-runner for 2024.
And he's probably not a provable part of Trump's Ukraine shenanigans.
lame54
(35,284 posts)Take NOTHING for granted
Many KNEW he wouldn't get the nomination
Many KNEW he wouldn't be president
These are the first steps of a long brutal journey