Stinky's Bold Prediction: Republicans in the Senate will support impeachment

[Stinky The Clown]

You wouldn't know that from Kennedy's gaslighting on MTP Daily.

You wouldn't know that from their silence.

But this Ukraine thing is a nuclear bomb that could blow the Senate Republicans to Hell and back. They see Trump for the criminal he is. They see the issue before them today as really simple to understand, even in Dumbfuckistan. They see his coattails shrinking at the same rate House Dems are changing to being pro-impeachment hearings. It is a stampede in the House, for sure.

They will kick Trump to the ground to try to save their own Senate seats. Give it time. Maybe November. January. March at the latest.

[vlyons]

1. Yes, self interest above all else

nt

[DrToast]

2. Well....

I’m not sure I’m ready to go that far. But I do think the conventional wisdom that there’s no chance of it happening is wrong.

If I had to out odds on it, I’d say 15-20%.

[MontanaMama]

3. Kennedy was just awful on MTP!

I was blown away that the Toad held his ground with him. Regardless...something seems to be afoot in the Senate.

[calimary]

38. That was actually a pleasant surprise.

[BlueIdaho]

48. I think it was a trial balloon by Kennedy

I also think Todd calling bullshit on Kennedy’s gaslighting wasn’t the outcome he was hoping for.

[H2O Man]

61. Kennedy is a blowhard.

Yet he did not dispute that Trump's actions on Ukraine need serious investigation. He did use some cheap denating tactics to try to distract. I think it is possible to ignore his nonsense -- which we expect at this time -- and take away that he knows Trump is in trouble.

[Newest Reality]

4. Expect...

Expect a lot of posturing and testing of the waters, meanwhile.

[doc03]

5. Sure they will

[TlalocW]

6. That is the best case scenario

No matter what the Whistleblower transcript says (we can't trust it's not altered with big swaths of it crossed out in Sharpie with new text added in), democrats are going to get the actual Whistleblower, and the repubs know it's bad news for Trump. There's a saying that when it comes to their candidates/presidents, democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line, but republicans also are very willing to throw someone from their side under the bus if it means their continued survival.

At least I hope that's what the scenario is.

TlalocW

[StarfishSaver]

7. I think you're right

It may not be enough to convict and remove - we'll see - but it will be enough for it to be bipartisan and to keep Trump from being able to claim it's a partisan witchhunt.

[Thekaspervote]

11. Thx for posting.. once again you've got your fingers on the pulse

[lindysalsagal]

8. I'm looking forward to frump outing the gop grifters: russian

Oligarch money was in many gop pockets. And possibly some dems'.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Sure could happen.

Trump will not hesitate to out anyone who he thinks might be his enemy. Mike Cohen as a example.

[ecstatic]

55. I was just thinking that! Hopefully he'll out Pence on the way out

the door, and everyone else who spent the past few years groveling at his feet.

[onetexan]

65. That would be my ideal scenario - for them to uncover Pence's connection

And moscow mitch, lowbarr, paul ryan, etc. The whole lot of these corrupted bastards.

[Hekate]

9. Yep. The simplicity of THIS particular act of betrayal is what enables the House to move...

...forward. Even Dumbfckistan ians can grasp this one, no need to get bogged down inMueller's painstaking details.

[DrToast]

16. Exactly. This crime is easy to explain and hard to justify

That’s a bad combo for Trump.

[ffr]

12. They're already squirming. Mitch might have a mutany on his hands soon. Dems on the attack!

One top GOP strategist said a documented link between that pressure and the aid delay could spur further Senate Republican defections. - CNBC

House impeachment vote has suddenly become a real threat for Trump
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212495961

[RandySF]

13. No they won't.

[SDJay]

14. I Think It's Also Possible

If not somewhat likely, that Dump will try to bring as many people down with him as he can as he thrashes about, circling the toilet bowl. Let's not forget that this is a person with no conscience, no ability to think for anyone but himself and someone who does not seem capable of thinking about consequences. He'll stain dozens of his lackeys while he's cornered. The collateral damage on this is going to be immense.

[Delmette2.0]

42. Dipshit already said he would listen to foreign information.

He just didn't say if he would solicit the information, as if any country would volunteer to help him out.

[unblock]

15. It's tricky, but yes. They know Donnie's bad for business.

The hard part is they have to appear really, really reluctant to impeach so as not to tick off the 90% of republican primary voters who love Donnie.

But yeah, I think they secretly know that he's bad for the Republican Party.

[Strelnikov_]

18. Yep. My bet is on Moscow Mitch tricking Red Don into resigning.

Tell him the votes are there, but never have to deliver.

[unblock]

23. That's how Nixon went. But I can't see Donnie going for it

How does Donnie see a "win" in that.

[Newest Reality]

30. Perhaps

the long-term impact on his brand could be an inspiration? That matters to him and the mob, I mean family.

If he sees impeachment as inevitable, despite all his posturing, resigning would allow for saving the brand more so than the hot branding iron of shame that is impeachment. Quitter/loser will fade, but impeachment and the crimes behind it?

It seems to be a win.

[shanti]

35. Don't forget

he is being sued in NY. They are just waiting for him to be a private citizen to pounce.

[calimary]

43. Now THERE'S an intriguing idea!

I still think donald will try to bug out under cover of night, and take up residence in parts unknown. Wouldn’t surprise me if he sets up a nice cushy exile in the Crimea - where the czars enjoyed their summers.

[OliverQ]

17. This article was just posted.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462890-senate-gop-vows-to-quash-impeachment-articles

Senate GOP vows to quash impeachment articles

[Thekaspervote]

25. Sen Kennedy fron LA was on one of the talk shows saying the same

No one should be thinking that the gop will turn

[Farmer-Rick]

59. I'm sure they will protect Putin's little asset.

And the rest of us better start learning Russian. My father translated Russian for a living. I guess I better brush off his old books.

When the Senate refuses to impeach, we will all be bowing to the little man in Russia and the orange man with his Slovanian sex worker.

[Sherman A1]

19. Believe it when I see it

not a moment before.

[mopinko]

20. how many are retiring?

they could start the trickle.

[customerserviceguy]

21. Agreed

The 2020 election is coming into focus, and they will surely be looking out for their own asses. Better to be in the Senate with a Democratic president than to be on the outside looking in, if they lose their seats.

I think this is why Moscow Mitch greased the skids under the revelation of the whistle-blower.

[Hoyt]

22. They want to run someone new in 2020, and this is their chance.

[GulfCoast66]

24. No a chance in hell. They are about to double down.

[Thekaspervote]

26. Unfortunately I agree

[NightWatcher]

27. It's also a way to get out from under his influence.

They can run on god, guns, and abortion in another 2years

[sellitman]

28. Only when it costs them $$$

They think through their wallets.

That's their weak spot.

[George II]

29. Kennedy was unbelievable, and for once Todd stood up to him. Good interview.

I sort of agree with you, at least those Senators who are up for re-election next year.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. March is what scaramucci keeps saying out of the blue

That trump will be gone, fyi

[Pepsidog]

32. " Dumbfuckistan" love it and will use often.

[shanti]

33. Well

I think that Chump will take them all down with him if they do this. He's all about revenge.

[warmfeet]

34. Oh, the gop will

eat their own, if given the proper incentive.

I have a feeling they just might get that incentive in due course.

I have a deep, hearty laugh, in reserve for just such an occasion.

[NoMoreRepugs]

36. I certainly hope u are right Stinky.

[kacekwl]

37. IF they do that

I hope trumps rats McConnell and all the others who committed crimes along with him out. I would bet the Orange anus has dirt on them all.

[dlk]

39. It was the public hearings in the Watergate matter that changed Republican's minds

When Trump’s criminal actions are revealed, Republicans won’t hesitate to throw Trump under the bus. Until then they will posture this is a partisan witch hunt. It’s how they operate.

[Kablooie]

40. So do we get Pence as president for the next year?

I know there's enough crap to slime him with too but would they?

I would think that the Rs would be much more hesitant to impeach Trump if they knew Pelosi would be president next.

[Captain Zero]

60. Pence and the GOP Senate could nominate and confirm

A new GOP vice president pretty quick. Could even make it some one squeaky clean (does that guy exist?/ Coates) who could then be nominated by their convention for ghe 2020 run.

[UniteFightBack]

41. I agree Stink. The evidence will be so great and dire even the most corrupt of juries will be

forced to convict. That still leaves them time to get another candidate in there...I'm sure a lot of them are quite delighted with this prospect.

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Yes that is a bold prediction

I'm not as optimistic. It's not clear if the courts will be courts or if the judiciary has been weaponized by Republicans, specifically the Supreme Court of course.

[yaesu]

45. not according to the latest news. nt

[BootinUp]

46. What r u smokin' man? I want some.

[yuiyoshida]

47. His stupid base

will be in an uproar...and probably a violent one.

[Rebl2]

49. If we get

rid of Trump, we get that other one-Pence. I’m worried independents might vote for him if he becomes President. I hope that wouldn’t happen.

[defacto7]

50. If wishes be horses...

But no.

[Brainfodder]

51. Hard to defend the indefensible?

But being Dumbfuckistan, so it's hard to know for sure?

Will be amusing to see who tries, & who just 100% weasels out of sight answering no inquiries at all?

Meanwhile, enjoying a heaping nothingburger with freedom fries while watching a reenactment of the Bowling Green Massacre.

[Leghorn21]

52. I concur, Stinky!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2371758

LOSER45 lost the House in November of 2018, and he lost the Senate on September 24, 2019.

Done and done

[Captain Zero]

54. If they don't convict him and move on

Their convention and their fall races in 2020 are going to be hell.

[AdamGG]

56. I'm skeptical that they'll be able to find 20 R Senators who don't blame the whole thing on Hillary

but I'll rec this for Dumbfuckistan

[ecstatic]

57. Also, Biden is their former colleague.

I made sure to bring that up in my latest appeal to them.

Not only did traitor trump try to have Ukraine manufacture evidence against Biden, but he also hinted that he wanted Biden to be executed by electric chair! This is pure madness! Even those assholes see it!

[onetexan]

66. OMG the crazed Idiot called for Biden's execution?!#!

off to prison with him!

[theglammistress]

58. I don't see that happening

I hope I'm wrong. No R has any integrity at this point. Not one ounce.

[H2O Man]

62. Recommended.

I think that enough will to get the conviction in the Senate. A few might do so for the right reason.

But more will for personal reasons. They are very small, in fact tiny men and women. They have had to hold in their disgust for over two years. They've had to smile when he insults them. They've opted to bow so that he can urinate on them (the tapes exist!). They hate him. They will hit him when he is down.

[EveHammond13]

63. I'm with you

[Tarheel_Dem]

64. Moscow Mitch will never let it happen because his hands are just as dirty as tRump's. He got his...

shiny, new aluminum factory from the Russians, and he will never allow impeachment articles to come to the Senate floor unless he's sure the vote will fail.

[garybeck]

67. E tu, Brute?

Nt

[KY_EnviroGuy]

68. They will only if there's enough bombshells to make them climb under their desks....

and those bombshells hit multiple media outlets.

Let's all remember that in today's political environment, anyone saying anything negative about a Rethug gets immediate numerous death threats by phone, social media, internet blogs, email, snail mail and Pony Express.

KY..........

[malthaussen]

69. It may be possible...

... Mr McConnell's disclaimer of any knowledge of the reasons for cutting off the Ukraine aid could be a pointer in that direction. We know he has a well-developed sense of preservation, and will do anything to win, even if it means giving up his favorite toy.

-- Mal

[MadMike47]

70. I want to see Moscow Mitch beg

I want to see Moscow Mitch whining about getting a vote and begging the Speaker to send over charges. Oh, the irony, if she keeps making him beg but she never gives him what he wants.

[Tiggeroshii]

71. I receive just criticism because I think there is a (very) small chance we can gain historically

large 20+ Senate seats. If repugs ignore this (still likely), that could very well be the case.

[Buckeyeblue]

72. I think if at least 10 senators announce that they will vote to convict

He might resign. I don't think he'd want to chance being removed. And those senators would not be able to support his reelection campaign. Or maybe he just announces he won't run for reelection. Which doesn't really make sense--he'd be better off quiting.

[LiberalLovinLug]

73. Or, in the tradition of Republican duplicity...

Those 10 (or more) R senators will contact Mitch privately telling him of their intentions. Mitch will relay this to the President. He will resign, bitching and moaning all the way about how he just cannot do his job anymore because of the horrible fake news media and the deep state Democrats and their bogus trial.

THEN...those 10 will shut the fuck up. And Mitch will go on air to say he is convinced that Trump would have never been voted out, and has every fellow R's support. But that Democrats have made his life a living hell, and no person can be expected to hang around with than kind of "abuse".

Resulting in a sudden halt to impeachment and gathering evidence etc...So there will be no revealing to the public of his crimes and treason, and by extension, the Republican party who let it all slide.

They will then nominate a candidate who will say all the right things. How Trump was divisive, and that he or she will do things differently. Not like the rabid Dem socialists of course, but just getting back to God, guns, and family.

And the MSM will be able also to go back to their comfortable false equivalency MO. Both parties are "the same" again.

[Buckeyeblue]

74. You are probably right on

I think the one variable is how Trump reacts. Moscow Mitch can't count on Trump not selling them out. A regular Republican would go along with the game. I started to write a "normal" Republican but as we all know, you can't be both normal and a Republican.

Putin may have to act if he doesn't want a Democratic president. Maybe he let's the pee pee tape loose. That would clear things up pretty quickly.

Wouldn't it be funny if Trump talked about the pee pee tape on the call and that's why they won't release it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

75. good point about Trump

His reactions are very unpredictable. And that includes to his fellow R's.

Maybe he'll stomp out railing against Mitch, and all of the Repblicans, and stupidly form his own party to run in 2020 splitting the R vote. Now that would be priceless.

As far as the pee pee tape. I think we are all well past that even being a small scandal now. The Normalization scale has absorbed that standard long ago. Trump could piss on a prostitute, or more likely have one piss on him, on 5th avenue, in broad daylight, and he'd not lose a supporter.

[Baked Potato]

76. I think they will, too. Timeline looks good

Democrats just need to control the rollout of their work product. Americans have short memories and attention spans. I still think Trump doesn’t want the job, never has. I think he will do something to push them over the edge. Oh for Pete’s sake, he’s on TV.