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Focus on the CONTENT! Not some bogus argument about whether or not it's a "real" transcript... (Original Post) Wounded Bear Sep 2019 OP
K&R, content is Trump solicited another country into investigating a potential political opponent. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #1
And it's also clear the aid was dependent upon the investigation Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #3
Correct. This IS the real deal FBaggins Sep 2019 #2
Exactly. What was released is plenty damning. There is no doubt that trump asked Hoyt Sep 2019 #4
Thank you! Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #5
More Frank Luntz style semantic arguments that deflect from the actual crime... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #6

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
3. And it's also clear the aid was dependent upon the investigation
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

I mean, this is the stuff that gets people put away all the time for bribery and corruption. There is no interpreting this, it's clearly a crime.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
2. Correct. This IS the real deal
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

This isn't a DOJ (i.e., Barr) summary of someone else's work. A telcon is the actual formal record of a president's phone call. It's the closest thing to a transcript that we can get.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Exactly. What was released is plenty damning. There is no doubt that trump asked
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:28 AM
Sep 2019

Ukraine for help uncovering dirt on Biden. That's criminal enough. And, there is plenty of implication regarding future assistance. Will be interesting to see the actual complaint.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
5. Thank you!
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:30 AM
Sep 2019

I've said a couple of times this has the whiff of "is it a concentration camp or not?" Doesn't matter what you call it. It's inculpatory evidence.

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