At some point, will Republicans say enough is enough and dump Trump?

[MineralMan]

I wonder. It would be simple enough to do. If The Donald is just a dragging anchor for the GOOPers, they can rid themselves of him very easily. Just let the House impeach and then throw the bum out.

There must be some Republicans who are thinking about this, with the 2020 election looming, don't you think?

[spanone]

1. No.

[BeyondGeography]

2. There's a very small audience for that within the Republican Party

They lost control of their base a long time ago but they were still able to sell moderate (for them) alternatives with electability arguments (ie Romney). Then came Trump. I don’t know what the rebuilding effort looks like but it isn’t going to start now when they have the White House and his support from the base is still very strong.

[tinrobot]

3. I think he's outlived his usefulness to them.

Tossing him overboard is a distinct possibility.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. A lot of them are-- look at the "retirements" and the Senate vote...

The biggest problem in Congress is the fear of being primaried by someone more extreme. Remember that in the end they work for their constituents and you can't do the job when you piss off you constituents, no matter how stupid they may be.

AOC's win woke up a lot of them in both parties.

[MineralMan]

5. Yes. It's looking pretty dark down that GOP tunnel.

The ones who are bailing are smart.

[genxlib]

6. I think they would

Except they are afraid of his base. As long as they are on board, they risk electoral annihilation.

And frankly, the base is anchored by conservative media. If Fox and others toss him, it MIGHT give the GOP enough breathing room to turn on him.

I say might because I am not even sure that it would work. I think the base is so invested that they would abandon the conservative media before they abandon Trump. For instance, if FOX turned, I suspect there would be an exodus to OAN which is even worse. Being told what you want to hear is a powerful salve in uncertain times.

[MineralMan]

8. Well, it seems to me that the GOP's "base" is not large enough

to prevail, really. We'll have to see how things go in 2020, but it may be that 2016 was the last gasp for the right.

[genxlib]

10. They aren't large enough to impact the general electorate

But they are large enough to affect the GOP Primaries.

The GOP has decreased in membership as moderates have fled to Independent status. That leaves the mouthbreathers choosing their candidates. It is evidenced by how high Trump's approval numbers are within the GOP. His supporters are all that is left.

In theory, they could feel safer after their primaries. But that would be too late to turn on Trump and have him replaced.

[MineralMan]

11. That makes sense. Perhaps that's why so many Republicans are

"retiring."

[genxlib]

12. That is actually a more interesting question to me.

Will the retiring ones show more spine?

I suspect that they still have a reason to stay loyal for fear of losing out on the wingnut welfare retirement industry.

[MineralMan]

14. Well, retiring from Congress is a pretty good gig, really.

Besides, most of of those folks have been feathering their retirement nests for a long, long time.

[kozar]

7. yes,but,

then our next question needs to be,, "WHY?" I made a medium length post on this and agree,, I will not bore anyone in this time of busy. I'm enjoying watching this and it is step one in ruining R's thinking.

Koz

[Arkansas Granny]

9. As long as the base stands behind Trump, Republicans in Congress will do the same.

They have decided that their allegiance will be to Trump instead of the Constitution and the country.

[OliverQ]

13. No

They're literally defending him on the news circuits right now over this memo.

[MineralMan]

17. Well, the usual suspects are doing that, anyhow.

A lot more Republicans, however, are holding their tongues. Only a few are speaking publicly.

[CrispyQ]

15. I've considered that possibility, too.

They got their tax cuts. They've taken a sledge hammer to many of our institutions that they have disdain for. They have another 14 months to stack the courts. He's historically unpopular & affecting down ballot races. Secretly, I think the majority of them loathe the man. Now is the time, though. If they wait, it will be too close to the election to try to repair their brand.

OTOH, we know the RNC server was hacked, too. What does Putin want Mitch to do?

[MineralMan]

16. Well, clearly none of us know enough about hidden relationships out there,

so it's all pretty much guesswork on that issue.

[Initech]

18. Never! They want absolute power.

And they'll prop up any boorish oaf who will help them achieve that goal.

[mcar]

19. If you saw, Lindsay Graham's remarks a little while ago

you'd have to believe the answer is "never."

[MineralMan]

21. I hear you on that. However, there are a lot more GOOPers

who are remaining silent and not talking with the media at all.

[mcar]

23. Bet there's a lot of squirming going on

within the "Family Values" party.

[cry baby]

20. I think most will "die on that hill". nt

[MineralMan]

22. OK, well, I won't mourn them if they do.

[cry baby]

24. History probably won't mourn them, either, MM.

Good riddance to them.

[TheRealNorth]

37. GWB would call them "Dead Enders"

[Volaris]

25. They wont until it becomes obvious that he will cost them their senate majority.

But as soon as that becomes a Real Thing, McConnell will put him in prison FOR US, and ask the nation to pat him on the head for being such a loyal patriot good boy

[liberal N proud]

26. They are riding this train right into hell

[HelpImSurrounded]

27. I just sent the following message to my GOP Senators

"You can save the GOP by forcing McConnell to allow a fair Senate trial for impeachment."

I stopped short of "Show integrity and the electorate will praise you for a generation."

I don't want to help them that much. I just want Trump impeached.

[MineralMan]

30. Fortunately, both of my senators are Democrats.

[happybird]

32. Mine, too

[themaguffin]

28. Only if it helps them politically, which, given the bat shit crazy base, is a big if

[Kablooie]

29. Depends entirely on the votes.

If R voters begin to get tired of Trump things will change fast.
If they remain dedicated to him, no amount of illegal, unconstitutional criminality will turn Repub politicians.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

31. It won't happen until Fat Nixon's approval ratings start to drop noticeably.

When their own re-elections start looking less assured, most of the remaining rats will abandon the sinking ship. That's what happened to Skinny Nixon; that there were a lot of noble GOPers who supported country over party at that time is a myth. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/opinion/watergate-republican-party.html

[beachbumbob]

33. Trump hitting 30% approval for one, and battleground states

Out of reach for republicans.

[saidsimplesimon]

34. If their past performance is any indicator,

I expect the luncheon today will be about circling the wagons, not abandoning ship leaving the capt'n on board. Either way, I still predict the Republican Party is about to self immolate.

[Cartoonist]

35. Trump is the balloon

The GOP is huddled nervously in the basket underneath.

[TlalocW]

36. I was two during Watergate. What happened then?

At some point - whether we reach it or not - there is a tipping point where most republicans will gladly throw Trump under a bus to protect what they can of their careers, and I would think McConnell is one of them. McConnell is evil, but he's no dummy. If he does it then a lot of undecided and even some stupider completely pro-Trump republicans will see the writing on the wall. Lindsay Graham is not one, though, that can be convinced.

TlalocW

[JCMach1]

38. Trump the Party now...

apart from a few self-serving pols and operatives in DC... He owns the party

[Awsi Dooger]

39. I am astonished that threads like this show up so dependably

Anyone who authors them can't have a single Republican friend or acquaintance, or sample areas where Republicans participate.

The answer is Never and a Resounding Never.

I spoke to my Republican aunt about an hour ago. She dismissed this as nothing. These were her words, "Trump knows he might run against Biden. He needs some information about him. Everybody does that."

That's it. That's their caliber. The naive types frame it that way while the frothing Simplistic Angry Males savor everything Trump does, and are desperate for him to take it exponentially further.

Understand the current Republican party that way and these silly threads will no longer exist.

Hit the cancel button before finishing the header

[MineralMan]

41. Well, I think I'll just continue to post as I choose.

The goal is discussion.

[delisen]

40. Main question:will Romney run or will someone

from the Bush camp of the Republican Party? Romney has been waiting for an opening and here it is.

Romney has already jumped forward with his "deeply troubling" remarker the transcript. He has appeal to the anti-immigration Republicans.

Republicans need to get Trump out before February in order to have what they consider a decent chance at winning in 2020.

Romney has strong credentials regarding Russia--they all laughed in 2012 when he stated that Russia was a major threat but time has proved him correct.

[MineralMan]

42. Well, yes, that's always a possibility.

However, so many Republicans in Congress are retiring so as not to have to face another election season. Romney, really, represents that category of Republicans, and the far-right base doesn't like that category one bit. There's a big problem in the GOP right now.