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riversedge

(70,047 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:06 AM Sep 2019

WaPo: Mulvaney Withheld Funds to Ukraine W/O Knowledge of NSC, Pentagon or State.

Nor did Congress know the reason [#MoscowMitch said yesterday he tried to get reason but no one answered his calls. }


aPo: Mulvaney Withheld Funds to Ukraine W/O Knowledge of NSC, Pentagon or State.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/24/1887696/-WaPo-Mulvaney-Withheld-Funds-to-Ukraine-W-O-Knowledge-of-NSC-Pentagon-and-State


Tuesday September 24, 2019 · 8:57 PM CDT


Fascinating article now up at The Washington Post outlining Rudy’s machinations in Ukraine, the ouster of the U.S. Ambassador there at his recommendation, consternation and anger at the growing clusterfuck from John Bolton and other senior officials, great stuff, but, for my money, here is the beef:

“The perception of a parallel, hidden agenda intensified in the summer as officials at the NSC, Pentagon and State Department began reacting to rumors that hundreds of millions of dollars of military and intelligence aid to Ukraine was being mysteriously impeded.

“There were never any orders given, any formal guidance from the White House to any of the agencies,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter. “And the NSC was scratching their heads: How is this possible?”

NSC officials, including Tim Morrison, who had replaced Fiona Hill as the senior director for European and Russian affairs, began organizing meetings to try to understand these hidden forces affecting Ukraine policy, officials said.

But even then, clear answers proved elusive. Officials were told that the money was being blocked by the Office of Management and Budget, without any accompanying explanation.

“It was bizarre,” the official said.”

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This is no way to run a government folks.
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WaPo: Mulvaney Withheld Funds to Ukraine W/O Knowledge of NSC, Pentagon or State. (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2019 OP
Hell, it would be a shitty way to run a business... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #1
one episode of the apprentice is all you need to know about donnie as a businessman unblock Sep 2019 #6
Never watched it. I always hated most "reality" TV... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #7
i'd never see those extended game shows if it weren't for mrs. unblock unblock Sep 2019 #8
Modern versions of soap operas... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #9
yep. soap opera drama in an extended game show format. unblock Sep 2019 #10
they weren't running the government, they were running trump, inc. 5X Sep 2019 #2
Exactly! bitterross Sep 2019 #5
Someone is looking for a fall guy... dlk Sep 2019 #3
And the plot thickens... MineralMan Sep 2019 #4

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
1. Hell, it would be a shitty way to run a business...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

which begs the truth of what a shitty businessman Trump always really was.

unblock

(52,113 posts)
6. one episode of the apprentice is all you need to know about donnie as a businessman
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:26 AM
Sep 2019

that's one of the most head-banging things about donnie managing to get himself into office.

it's one thing for someone to leverage celebrity to get in office when everyone has to guess if they've got the chops.

it's another thing when people got to see how donnie manages and sees that it's a train wreck and then they give him the job anyway. i know, electoral college and everything, but still.


on the apprentice you got to see donnie insisting that everyone kiss his butt.
on the apprentice you got to see donnie sowing dissension in the ranks, getting everyone to stick the knife into everyone else.
on the apprentice you got to see donnie only cares about winning no matter how you do it. if the object was to sell lemonade and you couldn't get anyone to buy because you had a terrible product and terrible branding and terrible marketing and terrible location, but you called a rich buddy and had him come over and give you enough money to beat the other team, well, then donnie was thrilled with that result.

and you got to see donnie judge people less based on their skill set or their achievements but more based on their macho/pseudo-alpha male personalities. he hated it if you said anything nice about the other team or if you volunteered that you were anything less than perfect.

even allowing that it was all staged for television, it showed donnie as a horrendous manager and gave every indication that he would be a horrendous president.

but the media was thrilled to promote his candidacy and give him lopsided airtime like never before.


Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
7. Never watched it. I always hated most "reality" TV...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:27 AM
Sep 2019

and I didn't figure I needed to to believe Trump was an inveterate asshole.

unblock

(52,113 posts)
8. i'd never see those extended game shows if it weren't for mrs. unblock
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:32 AM
Sep 2019

she loves them. there's something about seeing other peoples' dysfunction or some train wreck that makes you feel not so bad about yourself or your own situation, i guess.

i just like sitting beside her, and if that's what she wants to watch, so be it. i can read du from my phone

unblock

(52,113 posts)
10. yep. soap opera drama in an extended game show format.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:39 AM
Sep 2019

cynically brilliant, really. tortured drama plus prize money.

totally toxic, but cynically brilliant.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
5. Exactly!
Reply to 5X (Reply #2)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

They were and are, still, running a criminal Trump enterprise. That's redundant.

Trump put in place his stooges to do his bidding and that's what they do. Barr, Mulvaney, Pompeo, etc. They are all part of a corrupt organization.

dlk

(11,509 posts)
3. Someone is looking for a fall guy...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:15 AM
Sep 2019

Not to say that Mulvaney’s hands are clean by any stretch of the imagination.

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