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Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:34 AM Sep 2019

Seth Abramson breakdown on the Ukraine call transcript/memorandum

I know some folks here have a love-hate relationship with Seth Abramson, but I found this thread interesting reading.




Here's the Thread Reader link.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1176863815398559745.html

"PS5/ If Democrats understood the *first thing* about political messaging, every single one within range of a microphone or television camera would be using the phrase "worse than anyone ever imagined" in nearly every response to a question about their reaction to the transcript."

Amen to that!
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Seth Abramson breakdown on the Ukraine call transcript/memorandum (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 OP
That's pretty much what Adam Schiff has done: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #1
Spot on. That's how I read it. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #2
Left to our imagination so far? triron Sep 2019 #4
Schiff provided the 'executive' summary. That and the unedited transcript empedocles Sep 2019 #6
Don't need Abramson to repeat the obvious. The transcript/memorandum is clear that trump Hoyt Sep 2019 #3
I guess it took a national security related crime to grab the media's attention Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #5
Your last sentence is exactly my hope as well. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #7
Thank you for the link Pacifist Patriot..I have both Abramsons books.. asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #8
I've read his first one and just got the second on audio. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #9
The media needs to hit this story hard..they also need to bone up on asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #10
good read, thanks! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #11

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
2. Spot on. That's how I read it.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:38 AM
Sep 2019

Which has left my jaw hanging on the ground wondering what was said that isn't in this memorandum!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. Schiff provided the 'executive' summary. That and the unedited transcript
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:47 AM
Sep 2019

need to go far and wide.

With a boldface conclusion like 'EXTORTION'!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Don't need Abramson to repeat the obvious. The transcript/memorandum is clear that trump
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:40 AM
Sep 2019

solicited help and implied assistance depends on it.

Obviously, I'm not an Abramson fan. Now, if he predicted this months ago, I might listen to him in the future. But don't think he did.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,606 posts)
5. I guess it took a national security related crime to grab the media's attention
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:45 AM
Sep 2019

And therefore, the attention of the majority of the American public who aren't political junkies and have been outraged since before Meuller was appointed. The fact that Pelosi finally came around on impeachment for this issue means it will not fade like most of Trump's typical daily transgressions.

I'll take it, and hope that the attention to Ukraine issue will also make more folks aware of, and outraged by, Trump's other crimes.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
8. Thank you for the link Pacifist Patriot..I have both Abramsons books..
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:49 AM
Sep 2019

I have a twitter acct. but don't use it..the threadreader link is great....

Most of us know this admin. is a mob..what happens to gangsters..they get taken down..soon, soon..

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
9. I've read his first one and just got the second on audio.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

Finished a book this morning, so Proof of Conspiracy is next up in my listening queue.

I think Seth was a little hard on the media in this thread. It was a brand new story, so a bit premature to critique the reporting on it. I just listened to MSNBC on my way back in to the office after lunch and their coverage sure seemed in line with what he's saying was revealed.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
10. The media needs to hit this story hard..they also need to bone up on
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

how Impeachment works...I only listen to Rachel and Lawrence...and Seth has been beating this drum for a while now...seems the media is always playing catchup..they report "a little bit for the left, a little bit for the right"...an all day, no commercial day with all of lawyers, constitutional scholars, no pundits, would suit me just fine...but then, we have DU....

Happy reading...so much to digest....

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