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pbmus

(12,422 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 02:52 PM Sep 2019

Eichenwald...Republicans are so suffused in corruption they can't recognize it anymore...

Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2019, 04:18 PM - Edit history (2)

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1. This is not a transcript. It is a summary. And even so, it is devastating. It is a sign that Trump, @LindseyGrahamSC and much of the GOP is so suffused in corruption they can't even recognize it anymore.

Lots of folks are commenting on the "do us a favor, though..." and....
mentions 2...other elements. However, I believe that this summary, even in its small amounts, has been extremely edited - by Trump himself. It also shows that Trump knows nothing about Ukraine.

One important element: Trump slamming the Germans...
mentions 3...in the call, he says to Zelensky (whose name is repeatedly misspelled in this summary - another Trump tell.) that Germany "does almost nothing for you....a lot of European countries are the same way."

Zelensky replies: "You are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but 1000%"...

mentions 4...add to that, on a per capita basis, Germans provides almost 4 times the support as the United States. Finally, what foreign leader would slam the leader of a nation providing that much money? All while using a colloquialism that is used by...Donald Trump....
mentions 5...the "does nothing" shows Trump's ignorance. The "I agree" shows either Zelensky is a fool, or this summary has been edited falsely. And Zelensky's use of an American colloquialism is quite suspicious.

Add to that: Zelensky's use of Trump's own language...
mentions 6...Zelensky says that he wants to "drain the swamp." He says he will surround himself "with the best and most experienced people." Maybe Zelensky is imitating Trump, throwing his words back at him to win his favor. But this is very very suspicious...
mentions 7...next, and most important: Trump sides himself with one of the worst, most corrupt people in Ukraine, a man who was driven out of office because of the demands of IMF, EU, US, foreign investors, and Ukranians who took to the streets to protest.....
mentions 8...Trump is either urging a return to the corruption of Ukraine, where prosecutions were political, or he is simply ignorant of major recent Ukranian history.

Trump states, and I will quote the whole statement because it is so important....
mentions 9..."I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people
involved."

The man he is discussing is Victor Shokin....

mentions 10...this was a uniquely corrupt man. In the words at the time of Victoria Nuland, former Assistant Secretary of State for European & Eurasian Affairs at the State Department and a career Ambassador, the highest diplomatic rank in the United States Foreign Service:

mentions 11...Shokin was so corrupt that, it led his deputy Vitaly Kasko to resign in protest, long before Biden said anything. This was nationally broadcast, and came shortly after another major member of the govenemtn resigned over Shokin's corruption....

mentions 12...the Ukranian people, who also were taking to the streets to demand Shokin's removal, put together a petition to demand his removal. Unlike in the United States, such petitions have to be answered by the president....

mentions 13...NGO's and officials from the EU were demanding Shokin's removal because of his corruption....

mentions 14...Ukranian political parties were demanding Shokin's removal because of his corruption....

mentions 15...the deputy head of the Ukranian security service resigned because of Shokin's corruption....



mentions 16...outside analysts saw Shokin as a block on corruption investigations, and as such was angering the EU....

mentions 17...the US ambassador to Ukraine under GW Bush cited in sworn testimony before Congress about the demands across the world for Shokin to resign and how this improved things in Ukraine...

mentions 18...this could go on and on and on. And all of these statements (except for the last which was a review of history) came before Joe Biden said a word....

And now, a reminder of what Trump said about him...
mentions 19..."I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved."
mentions 20. Trump has told Zelensky that he supports the corrupt prosecutor and that he considers those people fighting against corruption in Ukraine to be "very bad people."

Is he an idiot? Is he encouraging Zelensky to return Ukraine to the era of political prosecutions? Or both?
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Eichenwald...Republicans are so suffused in corruption they can't recognize it anymore... (Original Post) pbmus Sep 2019 OP
Trump's an idiot if he thinks this fake summary won't cause even more outrage. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #1
This sucker was drafted by the DOJ. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #2
The corruption is deep and the Con moves in these circles daily... pbmus Sep 2019 #3
This is major. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #5
Barr was brought in to cover up everything that this narcissistic pbmus Sep 2019 #6
We were warned by Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #7
Maybe we can call Zelensky as a witness to this transcript ? Captain Zero Sep 2019 #4
they recognize it; it's the biggest tool in their toolbox Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #8

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. Trump's an idiot if he thinks this fake summary won't cause even more outrage.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

And yes, also he is extorting Ukraine to get them to return to corruption.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. This sucker was drafted by the DOJ.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

Think about it,yesterday about this time,Barr was put on notice by Schiff and someone other Chairperson.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. This is major.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

Ed Meece was Dirty as hell years ago,but Barr is making him look like a Choir Boy.

Barr was brought in by the Rethugs to bury anything Russia Related. Never forget he wrote the Pardons for Libby and North as well as Joe Arpio.

Captain Zero

(6,799 posts)
4. Maybe we can call Zelensky as a witness to this transcript ?
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:22 PM
Sep 2019

Ask him if this is his version of it. Maybe he will just come out on his own and debunk it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
8. they recognize it; it's the biggest tool in their toolbox
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 04:13 PM
Sep 2019

BTW, might want to edit the OP to show the tweet is from Kurt Eichenwald.

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