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217 according to Ali Velshi on MSNBC...nt (Original Post) Wounded Bear Sep 2019 OP
Sooooo close!! bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #1
Still in the "supporting investigations" mode yet... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #3
Meaningless then Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #6
Morale, scare tactic, and optics Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #13
How are they for impeachment when evidence hasn't been presented? Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #2
See my reply 3 above...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #4
Ummm tavalon Sep 2019 #8
It's being on board for the impeachment process, not declaring a yes vote on specific articles... Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #9
Nancy has installed confetti in the ceiling of the House Chamber jcgoldie Sep 2019 #5
Bwaaahaaaaa! MontanaMama Sep 2019 #7
😆 LOL dewsgirl Sep 2019 #11
I dunno about that tavalon Sep 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #14
She's a Patriot, and is truly afraid of the results on the nation as a whole... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #15
x 1000 peggysue2 Sep 2019 #16
Sure tavalon Sep 2019 #17
"Democracy is hard" Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #18
I remember tavalon Sep 2019 #19
k&r eleny Sep 2019 #10
Who are the holdouts? Does someone have a link? Flaleftist Sep 2019 #20
One of them is Tulsi Gabbard. Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #21

Johnny2X2X

(19,063 posts)
6. Meaningless then
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:24 PM
Sep 2019

There already is an investigation that is a formal impeachment inquiry, you don't need 218 votes for an investigation. I don't understand all this counting, what's the point of it?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
13. Morale, scare tactic, and optics
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

If the support is there up front, it's more likely there will be a successful impeachment vote down the line when the Articles of Impeachment are drafted and formalized, if and when they are put before the entire House for a vote.

ETA: It's a strength in numbers thing and could help move the needle on public support for impeachment. "Well goodness, if that many reps see this behavior as potentially impeachable, maybe there is something there!" Could also apply similar pressure to moderate Republican reps. Only time will tell.

Johnny2X2X

(19,063 posts)
2. How are they for impeachment when evidence hasn't been presented?
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:22 PM
Sep 2019

I mean, I know Trump has done 100s of things impeachment worthy, but shouldn't House members wait to see evidence before they are for impeachment?

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
8. Ummm
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:25 PM
Sep 2019

Trump handed them all the evidence they need by dropping that transcript in their laps.

So any unnamed Blue Dogs are stuck, now. No more studies to decide about impeachment investigations.

Game on.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
9. It's being on board for the impeachment process, not declaring a yes vote on specific articles...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

of impeachment. Basically, they are saying they are now comfortable with the House going down this road. A road that begins with official inquiries into suspected impeachable offenses to know what the Articles of Impeachment would ultimately contain. We're at the beginning of the end. Not near the end.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
12. I dunno about that
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

That presser had Pelosi looking the way I look on my way to the dentist. Why she looked so very unhappy is not for me to say (any theories I have, I will post with William Rivers Pitt on FB. In other words: not here).

Response to tavalon (Reply #12)

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
15. She's a Patriot, and is truly afraid of the results on the nation as a whole...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:32 PM
Sep 2019

not just on Dems future election prospects.

What you see on Madame Speaker is the look you see on vets faces when they go back into combat for the second or third time.

She knows that it won't be fun, but it needs to be done.

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
18. "Democracy is hard"
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:39 PM
Sep 2019

That's why authoritarians hate it. It's why Dubya once said his job would be a lot easier if he were a king.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
19. I remember
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 04:15 PM
Sep 2019

He probably said ,"heh heh", after it.

That was me, dancing around a subject I am not allowed to speak to.

Your spin about Pelosi's demeanor could well be right. My unspoken one could also be right. It could be a third one, as well.

I think we can agree that she looked pained, whatever the reason.

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