Who in the GOP would vote to impeach Trump?

[guillaumeb]

My opinion is that none of them would vote to remove Trump unless one or more saw it to be in their political interest to do so.

I cannot think of one national level GOP politician with any integrity.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Mitt Romney. Utah isn't that crazy about Trump, and

Mitt might like to run for president again. Getting Trump out of the way could give him an opening.

[blm]

5. I just posted about Mitt

I agree with you

[guillaumeb]

6. Would that vote require a spine?

Or would he only do it so he could run in 2020?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. He might suddenly grow a spine if he thinks

that could give him a chance to run for president. I don't think he's anywhere near as principled as he pretends to be, but if he gets some GOPers to go along with him, good.

[FreeState]

9. It also fits into his religions folklore

White Horse prophesy and all...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Joseph Smith, Jr., first leader of the Latter-day Saints (Mormons), made an 1843 statement, an apparently-embellished version of which, in around 1900, would become known as the White Horse Prophecy.

The White Horse Prophecy is the popular name of an influential but disputed version of a statement on the future of the Latter Day Saints (popularly called Mormons) and the United States. It was given by Edwin Rushton, in about 1900, and supposedly made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement.

[Enoki33]

32. I heard Romney today say it was deeply troubling. He has said that about

other scandals before and did nothing to show he has a spine.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. True. But if he helps take Trump down he might have

another shot at running for president without having to wait until 2024. That's a pretty strong motivation for some people.

[gldstwmn]

40. Bingo.

[customerserviceguy]

55. Romney won't go it alone

He would wait to see if he could bring others on board. If it looked like he could get enough to get a 2/3rds majority in the Senate, he would lead the charge.

That's a tall order.

[LonePirate]

2. Believe it or not but I think Ted Cruz would vote to convict him. Here's why.

Despite Cruz competing with Graham to be as sycophantic as possible, there is still enormous amount of bad blood between Cruz and 45 after the 2016 campaign. Second, Cruz is not up for re-election again until 2024 and 45 will not be atop the Republican ticket. The focus will be on the Repub nominee and not 45. Also, given his squeaker of a victory in 2018, chances are high that Cruz would lose or maybe not even run again in 2024 as he would likely not be favored to win again. In short, Cruz has nothing to lose and plenty of reason to settle some scores.

[Claritie Pixie]

3. Someone from MSNBC said a GOPer told him about 30 if the vote was secret.

Can that be arranged?

[philf99]

17. Mike Murphy

[Amishman]

43. That 30 figure was for the House

The Senate doesn't have 30 remotely sane Rs. It might not have 3.

[HopeAgain]

4. I read somewhere

That one Republican Senator said off the record at least 30 Republicans would vote for impeachment if it were a secret vote.

That's the thing, the Republicans are terrified of the rabid Trump base. They figure that if they don't support Trump, they will get eaten alive by the maniacs that have taken over the party. I see that the most vocal defenders of Trump are the crazies like Gaetz and Kennedy who are true believers in their dear leader. The rest are cowering in their offices trying to figure out how not to get mowed down in this.

[guillaumeb]

14. Sad that GOP politicians are terrified of standing up to a would be dictator.

But these same politicians support McConnell, and supported Ryan as well.

[Baked Potato]

7. With Mitt Romney's leadership on this,

a whole bunch could move in that direction. I think the Republican Party is going to morph back into a more dignified, traditional party. There has been a huge vacuum there since McCain passing and the Bushes gone. The president is the leader of their party and he is just too toxic.

[guillaumeb]

15. Welcome to DU, and the conversation.

In my view, the GOP has been the home foe racists since 1968. The GOP needs the racist vote. And that tells me all I need to know about Romney, with his 47% comment, and the rest of them.

[Baked Potato]

38. Thanks, yes they need all they can get, agreed

If we really want Trump out, and not just have a show impeach, we’ll need him and others to show some courage. I hope being pragmatic isn’t too much of a bad word in this political climate. To get back to some kind of normalcy and get big things done, there has to be bipartisanship. That sounds pie-in-the-sky, I know. Trump has created such a bitterness that it will take probably a whole presidential term to turn it around.

[guillaumeb]

48. Well said.

At this point, the GOP leadership sees compromise and/or bipartisanship as signs of weakness.

[gldstwmn]

41. Jeb Bush is probably looking mighty

fine to a lot of Republicans right now. Keep your eye on the ball and watch what happens next.

[wasupaloopa]

8. Maine's Senator will be troubled and very concerned

and will think about it but she will not vote to impeach.

[NewsCenter28]

10. Colins, Gardner,

Murkowski, Tillis, Romney, Sasse. Perhaps McSally if things get too hot.

[NurseJackie]

12. There's a compilation video somewhere of all her "troubled and concerned" ...

There's a compilation video somewhere of all her "troubled and concerned" insincere platitudes.

Jesus God I hate her.

[guillaumeb]

16. Is that a 12 hour video?

Collins is as independent as McConnell will allow her to be.

[guillaumeb]

21. The same Senator that happily voted for Kavanaugh.

And she is what passes as a moderate in the GOP.

[Mike 03]

11. Mike Lee shocked me by voting to end Trump's Emergency Wall Declaration.

I'm wondering if he could be turning against Trump. He's best buddies with Cruz, and a poster up this thread set forth a good argument for why Cruz might defect.

[guillaumeb]

18. Another poster talked about fear of the GOP base.

None of these GOP politicians will criticize Trump's base because they also need those base voters.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

19. A 2/3rd Majority of the GOP controlled Senate would not impeach Teflon Don...

If he was eating live, human babies on TV, they'd say he needs to go on a diet; but they wouldn't impeach him.

[guillaumeb]

20. Agreed.

They would insist that Obama and HRC had also eaten live babies, but the deep state covered it up.

[JDC]

22. Marco Rubio perhaps

Shitler has burned a lot of bridges.

[guillaumeb]

23. But Trump's lunatic base is in every state.

And that base, small as it is, votes consistently.

[gratuitous]

24. Today? Not very many, if any

At this point, all that's happened is that the Speaker authorized an impeachment inquiry. No committees have called any witnesses, no documents have been subpoenaed, nothing has happened. It's like looking at the NBA schedule for 2019-20, and saying that Boston doesn't stand a chance against Toronto in their game scheduled for Christmas Day. We don't know who's going to make the final roster of either team, if there are any injuries to key players, if there's a breakout star who makes one time invincible. It's a fool's errand to try to say with confidence today who's going to win that game three months from now.

Same goes for an impeachment vote. No articles of impeachment have been drawn up, let alone voted on in committee. In three months, there may be a near-irresistible case made for impeaching Needy Amin. Let's not get quite so far ahead of ourselves. There's still much work to be done.

[guillaumeb]

25. There is much work to be done.

However, we have the history of the GOP post-Nixon, and the examples of 2000 and 2016 to show that in the GOP, no tactics or illegality present a problem.

At this point, the GOP is only about power, and serving the rich.

[Funtatlaguy]

26. Many privately hate him. They'd love to be able to dump him.

[guillaumeb]

27. But how do they dump him, and keep their base?

Trump is the 2019 face of the GOP. They allowed it to happen.

[Funtatlaguy]

29. Groundswell of evidence.

[guillaumeb]

34. Versus "fake news" that convinces Trump's base that they are well informed voters.

[Bradical79]

28. Romney comes to mind

Depending on how the wind is blowing in Utah, Mr. Etch-a-sketch could concievably break ranks. Trump hasn't really benefited him politically.

[madinmaryland]

30. Anyone who would want to primary Pence...

RMoney, kasich, Cruz, little Marco, Huntsman??

[guillaumeb]

35. Can Trump's base be persuaded that Trump is a crook?

[madinmaryland]

36. The Bush 25-percenter dead Enders will stick it out. i.e. the teabaggers,

klanners, nazis, misogynists.

[guillaumeb]

47. Agreed.

Trump epitomizes their own views.

[gopiscrap]

31. I have never met any republican with any integrity

humanity or honestly elected or not

[meadowlander]

44. Some will have ambition though.

And they're not going to stand for "Trump for life and Ivanka next in line".

Trump used the Russians to dig up dirt on his Republican primary opponents as well. Where integrity fails, self-interest may pick up at least some of the slack for some of them.

[book_worm]

37. 67 votes are needed to remove him--47 dems/ind who vote with dems

but I'm not sure that WVA's Manchim would vote to convict--but even if all 47 members of Dem caucus vote to convict you still need 20 GOP Senators--and frankly I don't see that happening. That said it's right for the House to impeach.

[GulfCoast66]

39. Speaker Pelosi's decision to impeach it's not about removing Trump.

At least not through impeachment and conviction. She knows that will never happen. But she now has a very easy to understand charge against the SOB.

It has always been, and still is about winning in 2020. She was not going to agree to an impeachment if it hurt us in 2020. But now it helps us. It’s there for everyone to see he tried to use a foreign power to help him get reelected.

As time goes by is going to get worse and worse. But will never get bad enough for 67 senators to vote for impeachment. If we win in 2020, that doesn’t really matter.

[guillaumeb]

49. An excellent observation.

The Mueller Report is very complex. This Ukraine deal is a clear example of quid pro quo in action.

[Rstrstx]

42. William Hurd in the house might

He's not running for re-election in 2020, has never been a fan of Trump and a background in the CIA, so he has little to lose. He was contacted by local news about if he would support an inquiry and has not responded.

[berni_mccoy]

45. Rubio

[Buckeyeblue]

46. I think they need assurance that it won't hurt them

I'm not sure what that looks like. Maybe it's public sentiment. It's just interesting how supposedly intelligent people can look at the evidence and come to different conclusions.

[guillaumeb]

50. Or, claim to see different conclusions.

They are either cowards, or in agreement with Trump.

[Lib 4 Life]

51. i don't care. i don't gage my decision on the gop.

[WhiteTara]

52. Ben Sasse

[ms liberty]

53. It is the democrats and our job now to paint every republican orange

Especially the ones up for election or re election.