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Isn't the very fact that Trump asked a foreign government for dirt on Joe Biden - a domestic political opponent - in and of itself an illegal act and an impeachable offense?
I keep hearing all this stuff about 'quid pro quo', and the withholding of military aid etc. as being a key part of Trump's conversation with the Ukrainian president, and baked into the whole issue of whether or not he did or said anything impeachable. To me it seems that absolutely nothing matters other than the fact which Trump has admitted to, that he asked a foreign entity to look for dirt on a domestic political opponent.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)A zillion "experts" and pundits as well as Dem reps have said so over the past few days.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Not everyone agrees that it was illegal. But it is impeachable.
Secondly, there may be more to this story. The incident was described as a pattern or series of events that included one promise to a foreign country. It's not clear if the promise was the implied promise of releasing aid, or an actual promise we don't know about yet.
The reactions of people who have read the entire report might yield important clues about how big this might be.
But you are correct: He confessed that he did this.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)No matter how much obfuscating and flailing And distracting Trump spews out.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)law to analyze Trump's conduct. No wonder you're confused.
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)What they say is more for getting general information, but yes, the deed is done and its sufficient. The rest is only what the details could be.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)and it is just the LATEST in impeachable offenses from this fascist fuck
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Campaign finance law. That is very cut and dry.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)But you don't need an actual on-the-books crime to impeach. It's whatever Congress decides, which is why it's referred to as a political action and not a legal one.
I agree that one fact alone is damning, and important because it's so simple to understand.
I don't know what will happen next, but he's caught in a very big trap now.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Extortion is a whole buttload worse than quid pro quo.