Jennifer Rubin goes there - regarding Pence

[lanlady]

She just published another opinion piece online, "Barr, Mulvaney, other officials better lawyer up" where she says this:

"Barr is not the only member of the administration who is in legal and career peril. Most importantly, it is essential to determine what Vice President Pence knew of Trump’s efforts, whether he advised against this kind of conduct and whether he was involved in the pressure campaign to find dirt on Biden. When we move into the realm of impeachment, it is obviously necessary to determine if the vice president, in case of removal or resignation, is fit to take over. Congress should move swiftly to subpoena him and obtain all documents relating to this travesty."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/25/these-officials-better-lawyer-up/#comments-wrapper

The wheels are coming off the wagon at record speed!!

[JaneQPublic]

1. POTUS Pelosi! (nt)

[dweller]

4. VP HRC !

✌🏼

[Perseus]

47. Agree, VP HRC then Pelosi can come down and leave HRC as President

That would be justice.

[joost5]

54. +11111! n/t

[forgotmylogin]

41. Wouldn't that be an amazing finale to the Apprentice?

[NCjack]

58. Only if Trump goes to Fed prison. nt

[lagomorph777]

61. Mar-A-Gitmo

He and Ghouliani can share a shipping container cell.

[kentuck]

2. Yes, he should not be permitted to succeed Trump under any circumstances.

He is complicit at eyeball level.

[BigmanPigman]

3. Wasn't he in financial trouble before becoming VP?

Can he afford to lawyer up? Will the RNC and NRA pick up the bill?

[tblue37]

26. The Trump campaign has paid $173,000 for Lewandowski's legal bills. nt

[BigmanPigman]

30. I thought the moron didn't ever pay his decent lawyers.

Isn't he famous for that?

[tblue37]

34. The campaign paid, not Trump. nt

[BigmanPigman]

36. Oh, and they are loaded aren't they?

[smb]

48. How Much Is That In Rubles? nt

[not fooled]

55. I think there's a legal defense fund

set up by $$$$ puke donors specifically to defend WH personnel charged with crimes. It's gotten quite the workout.

And peanuts compared to return for the money hoarding class considering their successful looting of the Treasury via red don's tax scam.

[ffr]

5. That's what I've been screeaming all day!! Thank you. Get legs! Get thee to the greatest page!

[njhoneybadger]

6. Mulvaney knows he's in deep shit

[bucolic_frolic]

10. "Slick Mick" the numbers guy!

What DOES he put on his hair? Is it Trent Lott's formula? Vaseline? Varnish?

[Marthe48]

12. whatever trump uses for hemorrhoids

n/t

[saidsimplesimon]

16. good punch line, funny also

[Marthe48]

18. TY

I'll be here all week

I loathe mulvaney, loathe all of the scummy people trying to ruin my country

[certainot]

45. btw, mulvaney fawningly told limbagh that he was a 'rush baby' - like steven miller

grew up on limbaugh, learned politics from him

miller says limbaugh's first book was one of the most influential in his life. probably right up there with ayn rand

dittoheads took over the white house

[smirkymonkey]

57. What an idiot.

You don't learn politics from Rush, you learn hate. These people just disgust me.

[yonder]

22. Could be this:

[dchill]

24. You beat me to it!

[yonder]

25. A timeless sight gag, for sure.

[dchill]

42. BEAVER GREASE. Sorry, I yelled.

[Generic Other]

7. Trump ratted him out this morning

"Pence made phone calls to the Ukrainians too."

[Marcuse]

13. Yep.

[link:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-pence-ukraine-phone-calls-1512771|

[FailureToCommunicate]

15. Yes!

[Ligyron]

21. You know what?

If Trump sees he is going down and going down hard, he's just the kind of individual who would want to drag down others in his admin as well. Blame them for his screw ups.

"It's all their fault, they made me do it".

If I go down, I'm not going down alone. Hell, he might even provide testimony at their trials.

I don't know why I hadn't thought of that yet, guess I didn't actually believe impeachment, even an inquiry would ever occur.

[Dem2theMax]

39. I honestly think he would be jealous if Pence became president.

I really think Trump will use whatever chance he can to throw Pence under the bus. If Trump goes down, I think he will want to take Pence down with him. If Trump can't be president, no one can be president.
Of course that's stupid, but it's Trump.

[dchill]

43. Yep. Pence the Rat.

[smb]

49. It Would Serve Pence Right...

...if the Deranged Dotard got the idea in his little pea brain that Pence is conspiring to stab him in the back and become President himself.

[onetexan]

40. President Pelosi it is! Trump/Pence off to lockup behind bars!

i go to bed for several hours & all hell breaks loose. Ive been so distracted by the I word past 48 hours i havent been productive workwise

[marble falls]

51. Is there any way to at least disbar Giuliani, too?

[lagomorph777]

62. Holy crap. They're all doomed now. Trump has confessed and implicated all of his cronies.

[ecstatic]

8. Has anyone from the impeachment committees acknowledged that Pence needs to be

looked at?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. give it time -- the outcry comes from us

[C Moon]

11. I'll bet the GOP wishes they'd had a primary at this point.

[pangaia]

33. lolol

[Pepsidog]

14. I'm not holding my breathe. We have heard dire warnings before. So far Trump is the real Teflon Don.

[bucolic_frolic]

17. Yes, this now involves potentially anyone in the administration

who has been there awhile. Wilbur Ross. Dan Coats says he had no prior knowledge of the Whistleblower complaint. I believe him, he just wanted outta there.

On the doubtful side, they do tend to ignore subpoenas. Pence testifying? Good luck with that.

[WhiteTara]

31. I think he is the whistle blower

It came so suddenly after he walked out and took his assistant with him.

[bucolic_frolic]

38. Wow, that would really create a buzz tomorrow n/t

[saidsimplesimon]

19. Whoa Ms. Rubin, let's hold Pence

for the "coup de grace". Let Pence sweat it out while we fry the Big Fish first.

[defacto7]

20. Just ask Pence what he knows. He's saved and sanctified.

He'll always tell the truth. No need for no gal darn lawyers or anything.

[BHDem53]

23. Pounce on Pounce!

[tableturner]

27. Pence is a contributor to this treachery....check out his comments after meeting w/Ukraine pres.

He's a key participant.....some Pence quotes from here (much more at the link):

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pence-gave-ukraine-the-message-too

"Well, on the first question, the answer is no. But we — with President Zelensky yesterday, we discussed — we discussed America’s support for Ukraine and the upcoming decision the President will make on the latest tranche of financial support in great detail."

"But as President Trump had me make clear, we have great concerns about issues of corruption."

"But I called on him to work with us to engage our European partners to participate at a greater level in Ukraine, and also told him that I would carry back to President Trump the progress that he and his administration in Ukraine are making on dealing with corruption in their country."

HE'S GOING DOWN TOO!

[madinmaryland]

28. Heh. Mother will be living along in a small one bedroom house in..

buttfuck, Indiana after Miklichovich Pence spends a couple of years in jail.

[amcgrath]

29. Pence must be put out of office.

He is a crook.
Or he is an imbecile.

[calimary]

46. Or both.

Holy Cannoli, what a tangled web - and all that...

[pangaia]

32. "it is ...necessary to determine if the vice president, .... is fit to take over. "

LOLOL

[dchill]

44. Why? Nobody evaluated Trump's fitness.

[blue-wave]

35. Yes!!

Congress should aggressively look at Pence and any other administration miscreant that has shown even the slightest trace of treasonous behavior.

[oasis]

37. Trump and Pence, joined at the hip. Get rid of both. nt

[marble falls]

50. Just as long as the wheels all fall off the wagon.

[YOHABLO]

52. Rubin is counting on Trump being removed. That hasn't happened, and it may not.

[cstanleytech]

53. I wonder if Pence will resign before using impeached? I kind of doubt it.

More likely outcome is Trump resigns just before the end of his term and then Pence becomes president and pardons him.

[diva77]

56. wouldn't the pardon only cover federal crimes? couldn't he still be investigated for

state crimes despite receiving a pardon from Dense?

[cstanleytech]

59. Each state has different laws regarding that.

[lagomorph777]

60. Mike Penis, Bilbo Barr, and Doody Ghouliani are in YYYUUUUUUGE trouble.

Barr and Ghouliani are explicitly implicated in Trump's own notes of the call. And if you think somebody other than Trump wrote those notes, read them. They are very obviously written in Trumpish, even what the notes claim are Zelensky's words.

[SCVDem]

63. Time to make Pence

An offer he can't refuse!

He is complicit and unfit for high office.