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Kablooie

(18,608 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:10 PM Sep 2019

No one seems to talk about Trump using his *personal* lawyer to deal with a foreign government.

As president he doesn't tell Zelensky to deal with a government representative.
He tells him to deal with Giuliani, his personal lawyer who does not work for the government.
Giuliani just works for Trump personally and only answers to him, not anyone in the State Department.

And also the telling bizarreness of using the Attorney General to do work that normally would the State Department or CIA purview.

It all stinks to high heaven, does it not?

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Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
1. Yes it does and that is some kind of special stench.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:20 PM
Sep 2019

The kind that stays in your nose long after you've left the area.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
2. I've been wondering the same thing. Cooperate with his personal attorney? That's key to me.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:31 PM
Sep 2019

This is clearly on his personal behalf, not of behalf of Americans, although we get to pay for it.

GReedDiamond

(5,310 posts)
3. Not to mention RudyPootPutin going on Hannity's Fux show...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:32 PM
Sep 2019

...and claiming he was on a mission for the State Dept.

Which the State Dept subsequently denied.

Hekate

(90,552 posts)
4. "No one"? I've watched several commenters & reporters on MSNBC & Rudy is right at the top...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:49 PM
Sep 2019

Rudy is getting quite the share of comment this past week and more, because the little jerk is all over FOX yapping about his importance to his boss, and helping dig the hole deeper.

Kablooie

(18,608 posts)
5. Yes, they talk about Rudy but not the fact that
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:52 PM
Sep 2019

he's not a government employee or US representative in any way.

He represents Trump as a person, not as the president.

Hekate

(90,552 posts)
8. No, that is *exactly* how they describe him: Private citizen. No official government connection.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:12 PM
Sep 2019

Just a thug doing the Boss Thug's bidding.

Don't know how you missed it. In fact, Steve Kornacki and his guest are talking about it this very minute. Trump doesn't even understand the distinction between Giuliani and Barr.

athena

(4,187 posts)
9. He understands it very well, in fact.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:18 PM
Sep 2019

There is no difference, effectively, between Giuliani and Barr. Barr is as much Trump's personal lawyer as Giuliani is.

(Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out the disgusting irony of what this administration, with the help of Republicans in Congress, has done to the justice department.)

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
11. Sure, it stinks. Dems will know if it's a legal issue, and include it in the articles if possible or
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:05 AM
Sep 2019

go after Rudy separately. I don't think it will be overlooked if Dems have jurisdiction/standing.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
12. I've been saying this to the tv for weeks: RG isn't a gov rep! He's not sworn, he's not supervised.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:37 AM
Sep 2019

He doesn't answer to any office. He's rogue. Might as well send in ronald mcdonald or the 3 stooges. Gangsters always use "cutouts" so they can deny it later. Why would any other government even listen to the fool? The other governments must think we're a lawless banana republic at this point.

If we had anyone left at state department, or enough ambassadors, they'd be wondering wtf they're doing sitting around in foreign countries when the potus ignores them and sends in his personal goons.

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