Does anyone think that Trump might be driven to suicide?

[Poiuyt]

We know that he has never been held accountable before. How do sociopaths react when they feel like they're backed into a corner? Would that be preferable to him compared to the humiliation of impeachment?

[CentralMass]

1. Not a chance.

[arthritisR_US]

2. Yep. No way he would.

[MurrayDelph]

48. Only by

KFC-ing himself to death.


(The last time I ate at a KFC it was horrible, and I got sick from it. Eating there again would be suicide)

[arthritisR_US]

60. His gut is no doubt as twisted as he is so

that wouldn’t be a problem for him.

[trueblue2007]

73. by THUNDERBOLT FROM GOD !!!!!!!

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[Hekate]

3. No

[NCLefty]

4. No. Malignant narcissist is still too narsissictic.

And, at the very least, he will always have his gold-chasing family members and fawning sycophants hoping to lap up some of his former glory.

I do think impeachment makes it less likely that Republicans start naming airports and shit after him. I was mildly annoyed with that prospect. :p

"Ladies and gentlemen.... we're encountering some... unexpected turbulence, and we're being diverted to Donald J. Trump Regional Airport (Mississippi)..." O.o

He WILL stew and rage, however. So much stewing and so much raging. Oh, look...

Link to tweet

[dawg day]

27. I get creeped out when I fly into what i still defiantly call "Washington National"

Reagan was fortunate to be surfacely charming and "congenial", and being obviously impaired when his administration was all complicit in another impeachment-level scandal.

So he got the airport named for him. But Trump isn't charming or congenial, and his dementia effect isn't soft and sweet but vicious and paranoiac. Maybe some acolyte of his will want to name a post office somewhere after him, but most will be glad to pretend he never existed.

[drbtg1]

47. Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers and got an airport named after him. So messed up!

When I think of that, I think of 9/11 when the air space was closed and all aircraft had to be grounded immediately. Experienced air traffic controllers were so incredibly important then.

Reagan was so irresponsible. The airport should be renamed, preferably for a real hero.

[YOHABLO]

70. And a big statue of Ronny right there at the Airport as you drive in. Can't stand looking at it.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

82. I worked there for ten years.

I will never call it anything but DCA or Washington National Airport.

And while I'd left the job by then, I recall how Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. And in a complete betrayal of unions, Lane Kirkland, who was head of the AFL-CIO then, completely supported Reagan. No wonder unions are so incredibly weak. Their very own president wouldn't stand up for them.

[BlueTsunami2018]

5. No way.

He’s far too self absorbed to do the world that kind of favor.

[malaise]

6. I am hopeful

I want him to jump from his New York Tower

[dewsgirl]

16. Good Lord he would probably land on the poor doorman

That unfortunately had the bad luck of just working there. Or somehow this fool would land on something where he survived and the base would worship him even more.

[malaise]

29. Nah he would land with a thud

and there'd be more pus than blood all over the place - we'd need bleach and Savlon for the clean up.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. There would be a huge grease spot.

They'd have to pressure wash the sidewalk after the chunks are cleared away.

[malaise]

63. He would leave a permanent stain

on the political process

[mountain grammy]

77. That's a nice visual.

[mucifer]

7. No he still believes he is above the law (which he could be depending on what the senate does)

[bluedigger]

8. Sure.

He just needs incarceration in a facility with unfortunate camera malfunctions and sleepy overworked guards first.

[VOX]

9. Emphatically NO. He's WAY too enamored with himself to become a martyr.

45 is a very sick guy who probably has no doubts about cynically agreeing with what his extremist supporters believe: that God has placed him at the helm of the U.S. government for some big “reason.” He feeds off the mass adulation of his rallies, and own personal “news” network.

Sorry, not buying it, now or ever. In fact, Trumpists, please do fuck off.

[Frustratedlady]

10. I have said from the get-go that he would end up committing suicide.

The one thing he will never be able to handle would be Ivanka's hurt look when the truth comes out. He is a king before her eyes.

Also, he loved Hitler and read so much about him. Probably the only books he actually read. Didn't Hitler die from biting into a cyanide capsule? That would be fast, painless and give him a dramatic exit to go down in history as a martyr. We'd never hear the end of him, then.

[hlthe2b]

17. The conspiracy theories would never end if he did.

BTW, there is no way that oral cyanide is a painless death. It burns the stomach, cuts off use of oxygen abruptly, leading to fulminant respiratory failure and seizures. Quick, yes. Painless? No way.

[Frustratedlady]

18. I was not aware of the pain associated.

Thanks for the education.

[kozar]

20. we read all the time now

about "suicide by police" Suicide by Mob /Putin sounds about the same.

[pandr32]

75. If things continue to worsen for Trump

...he very well might suffer "Suicide by Mob/Putin" because he blurts out things without thinking and would no longer be useful as a free-wheeling POTUS. There is no way Putin would open his arms to him in Russian exile.

[gopiscrap]

62. no Hitler and his wife shot themselves

[empedocles]

11. Would take real guts for trump to do suicide

[PrincelyBindle]

12. No I don't think so.

I don't feel so that he will do.

[LeftInTX]

13. No!!!

More like homicidal.

The only time I could picture him suicidal is if he was thrown in prison without a chance of parole

[Cosmocat]

14. The man who walked up to AF1 in the rain

Using an umbrella, with his wife and family walking behind him without umbrellas isn't committing suicide. He's throwing anyone and everyone, including his children in front of the bullets to avoid being taken down.

[ecstatic]

22. +1000. nt

[Cosmocat]

36. Sadam

found that puke bag under a cardboard box in a whole in the desert ...

[DFW]

15. Never. He will go to his grave quoting Muhammad Ali

His dying words will be "I'm the greatest."

It will be up to history to fill in the last words: "I'm the greatest_______"

Now, if someone on DU wants to start a thread speculating on what should be the proper ending to that phrase, I'm not going to stop them....."

[global1]

21. I Posted It The Other Day - i'm The Greatest.....

worst U.S. president ever.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

42. And he will claim to have come up with it...... nt

[Ilsa]

19. It's almost too bad that he probably won't face

Re-election, because I'd love to see him ranting over a massive popular vote loss and annihilation in the electoral college. Of course, he'd never accept being beat.

[samnsara]

23. no but he may resign and blame the dems for being mean to him...

[tman]

24. Of all the fantasy based wishful thinking on this forum lately

this one takes the cake.

Have a rest OP.

[Grammy23]

25. He is far too deep in his fantasy that he is everything he claims he is --

And more. He will want to emerge from this debacle triumphant and victorious. He is too much up his own ass to understand that the cracks are showing in his enormous deception. He will go down with his ship claiming all is well even as the ship sinks to the bottom of the sea.

[Joe941]

26. No. He still believes he will beat impeachment and win 2020.

[Maru Kitteh]

28. I did consider that. Looked up the stats on narcissism and suicide

I couldn't find much I can see it though, I really can. If he has NO way out . . . . . yup.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

57. If his narcissistic supply dries up, maybe.

What will happen to him when he can no longer hold his Nuremberg rallies at government expense? Will he be able to handle being out of the public spotlight - old, washed-up and unloved?

[Mike 03]

30. Trump is more like Jeffrey MacDonald than like Epstein or Elliot Rodger

You're right to ask this question, but Trump has an obsession with being right and his pattern is to blame others and lash out rather than hurt himself in an act of anger directed at others. Like most narcissists he is afraid of consequences but unlike Epstein or Rodger, he still doesn't believe he'll ever face them. His anger has a hideous self-righteous quality. He's also, it seems to me, extroverted. I'm no psychiatrist, but it looks like introverted narcissists are more likely to kill themselves when backed against a wall. Put another way, it's more important for him to be "right" than to escape.

[Siwsan]

31. I worry more about him going all 'scorched earth', damaging as much as he can, on his way out

The damage he causes, as he leaves, might be equal to, or worse, than what he's causing, now.

[Mike 03]

33. That's what keeps me up at night.

EDIT: I do believe he will now begin to "punish" everyone he believes is responsible, through ridiculous and dangerous executive orders and vile threats and hate speech.

[Mike 03]

38. How right you were: Scorched Earth has already started.

This morning the White House is saying "gun legislation is dead" because of Impeachment. It begins.

[Siwsan]

39. That's exactly where my mind just went

I sometimes wonder if we will even survive the reign of this psychopath. Our only hope may be his body turning on him, because the sycophantic GOP cares more about getting re-elected than they do saving the nation.

[Mike 03]

40. There should be a way to freeze the actions of an out-of-control commander-in-chief

once it is clear his actions are meant to harm the country. We will have to rewrite the Constitution once this nightmare is over. Maybe the courts can help us out until we can get him removed or voted out.

It is scary.

[Siwsan]

41. I'm thinking a WHOLE LOT of safeguards and 'amendment tweaking' needs to be done

For one thing, tighten up the requirements to run for POTUS to a thorough vetting BEFORE someone can officially file. Taxes, health (mental and physical), intensive back ground check, and make them pass a comprehensive civics/government exam. And no option about whether or not to put their family business into a blind trust. Reinforce and actually ENFORCE the Emoluments Clause. Restructure the pardon and executive privilege rights.

What we have now might be sufficient to handle a run of the mill 'bad apple' but they are just toys to be exploited, for the current Psychopath In Chief and his minions.

[Newest Reality]

61. Yes.

I agree.

If we remember that impeachment is not so much about the current President or particular crimes, (it could just as well be about decorum and respect and behavior) then our duty is the same: protect and uphold the office of POTUS itself for the sake of our political system.

The crimes are about actually getting the people responsible to act on impeachment, because there are reasons to not want to do that that are beyond partisan, again, about the position itself. No crimes are necessary to impeach. If the President wore greasy T-shirts and shorts, didn't shave, swore like a sailor, had drunken parties in the White House, etc., those would be grounds for impeachment, but, well, Republicans would probably ignore the impact on decorum and say, "well, he's just different!"

Not only does this rest on nobody being above and beyond the law, it is about nobody being able to denigrate, compromise,demean, distort and destroy this most essential position in our system. That's the point. Is Trump guilty of that?

Now, as far as impeachment is concerned and the protection it represents, that's being patriotic.

[gopiscrap]

65. also no business people or military people should run for president

in fact I think you should have a law degree in order to run for president

[Siwsan]

72. I agree on business people. I'm on the fence, as to military

Guess it all depends. Many of them have priceless leadership experience and 'grace under pressure'. I'd have to observe the whole mind set and service history. I'm pretty sure their service records would be great sources of information.

A history of ethical and extensive law and government experiences tops all requirements, IMHO.

[Hortensis]

32. Agree with Maru. My first thought was no, but I looked it up.

I knew that suicide is an issue with people with borderline personality disorder, who have a way of making everyone hate them, so why not other personality disorders? As Maru said, there's little research out there, but this is from the NCBI.

Narcissistic personality disorder seems to be a distinct group among cluster B personality disorders with regard to suicidal behavior. In contrast to suicide attempters with other cluster B personality disorders, suicide attempters diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder are less impulsive and have suicide attempts characterized by higher lethality.

When they do become suicidal, they're more likely to plan a successful exit. Of course we don't know for sure that Trump would be, or only be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. People often carry multiple diagnoses.

[Demsrule86]

34. No, people like him kill others and hurt others ...not a hair on their self loved head.

[Glorfindel]

35. No

[Dave Starsky]

37. That fucking coward? Are you kidding?

He has zero sense of shame and lacks even the courage to fire people in person.

No, he will merely lash out and punish us all by reducing the country to a smoldering ruin. He will make us all pay for what we've done to him.

[Baltimike]

43. I didn't think Epstein would be either...nt

[milestogo]

44. He's a narcissist.

They only use attempted suicide as a way of manipulation.

[lame54]

45. Those empty KFC buckets all over the Whitehouse lawn...

Are no cause for alarm

[cwydro]

46. Nope. nt

[cynatnite]

49. Nope. n/t

[titaniumsalute]

50. No way

He would launch nukes and get us all killed before he offs himself.

[catbyte]

51. No. He's much too narcissistic and cowardly.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

52. Hope springs eternal.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

54. I would never hope/think/wish this on anybody

Not a fan of this thread

[Wounded Bear]

55. If he did, he'd want to take everybody down with him...

One of Hitler's final statements, as the Russians were closing in on his bunker in Berlin was that the German lost the war because the people lost faith and were not good enough to deserve his magnificant Reich.

I fear for the proximity of the nuclear football if Trump gets suicidal.

[dalton99a]

56. No. It might ruin his hair.

[philf99]

58. He appears to me

To be in poor physical health. I am not going discussion his mental health.

[Historic NY]

59. He's a coward....

[librechik]

64. Sadly, no. But they will make it look like one. If it's good enough for Epstein...

Because once they get Trump in the deposition room, he will sing like a bird.

If so, we must face the fact that we are at war with Russia, and we lost.

[gopiscrap]

66. Once trump is no longer useful to Putin

I would worry more about a hit then suicide

[shanti]

67. Nope

way too narcissistic to do so.

[Polybius]

68. If that happened, conspiracy theories would be off the charts

Hell, I don't even think I'd believe it.

[ooky]

69. No. He's a coward. He will simply invent more lies.

He's a pathetic man.

[trueblue2007]

71. WE CAN ONLY HOPE !!!!!! Like this, Looks good to me.

https://media.gq.com/photos/5994b3acb969fe12e2ca97d1/4:3/w_2888,h_2166,c_limit/trump-gross-food.jpg

[lpbk2713]

74. Trump lives on the fringe of reality.

And as such that means he is capable of doing anything unpredictable.
Including self destruction.

[Hotler]

76. Please stop that kind of talk because,

if he strokes-out or passes while in office we will never here the end of the wailing from his minions to rename every federal building, national park, airport, etc after his ass. That can not be allowed. What happens to him after he is out of office, oh well.

[ffr]

78. Yes. He should be put on suicide watch.

He's a weak minded person.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

79. Only if

Only if it was Epstein style suicide.

[redstatebluegirl]

80. No he loves himself to much.

[Initech]

81. Suicide? No, given his diet, a massive coronary is what will probably do him in.

And the other day he looked like he was about ready to blow. And I don't want to be there when that happens!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

83. I sincerely doubt it.

He's too completely delusional about how wonderful and perfect and right he is about everything, and how it's just those mean Democrats who are trying to undermine him.

Just as I really doubt he will leave the country and go somewhere with no extradition treaty. Again, he's not able to imagine that he can possibly lose.

[area51]

84. No. But I do worry that unless

someone takes away the "nuclear football", he might start a war in hopes of getting reelected.

[lettucebe]

85. Literally impossible for a narcissist to commit suicide

At least that'd be my guess

[StarryNite]

86. Nope

Not a chance.

[ret5hd]

87. "I like to think that the last thing that went through his head...

other than that bullet, was to wonder how the hell Nancy Pelosi ever got the best of him."