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Atticus

(15,124 posts) Thu Sep 26, 2019, 11:58 AM Sep 2019

So, is Trump discussing a pardon with Pence yet? "Mike, you know I've always respected you---" nt

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So, is Trump discussing a pardon with Pence yet? "Mike, you know I've always respected you---" nt (Original Post) Atticus Sep 2019 OP

what does "mother" say about that... did God command it? lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #1

Well, unless Pence also gets indicted, you know he will follow the Ford Method tavalon Sep 2019 #2

Probably. Too bad it's meaningless. Scoopster Sep 2019 #3

That only means that the impeachment itself can't be pardoned. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #4

impeachment can not be pardoned, if found guilty and removed can not be pardoned beachbumbob Sep 2019 #5

I doubt it. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #6

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)

1. what does "mother" say about that... did God command it?

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Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:00 PM

Sep 2019

tavalon

(27,985 posts)

2. Well, unless Pence also gets indicted, you know he will follow the Ford Method

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Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:01 PM

Sep 2019

with the same results.

And I'm okay if he does it, because NY is waiting for him. Mueller gave them all the ammunition they need for a mob takedown.

Scoopster

(423 posts)

3. Probably. Too bad it's meaningless.

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:02 PM

Sep 2019

Impeachment is specifically mentioned in the Constitution as one of the instances where a President cannot issue a pardon.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)

4. That only means that the impeachment itself can't be pardoned.

Reply to Scoopster (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:06 PM

Sep 2019

Pence could still pardon Trump for federal crimes he committed but hasn't been prosecuted for, just as Ford did for Nixon. Unfortunately for Ford, that cost him the 1976 election.

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)

5. impeachment can not be pardoned, if found guilty and removed can not be pardoned

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Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:18 PM

Sep 2019

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)

6. I doubt it.

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:33 PM

Sep 2019

I don't think he's capable of that kind of planning. Plus, he's convinced he's innocent and knows the Senate will never convict.

I hope I'm wrong about that last part. It's hard to guess what needs to come out for Republicans to be willing to turn against him.

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