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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:33 PM Sep 2019

Trump threatens retaliation against whistleblower

President Trump expressed disgust with the explosive whistleblower complaint, slamming the intelligence officer and those White House aides who helped him or her as “almost a spy” and suggested it was treason, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Said Trump: “I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”



https://politicalwire.com/2019/09/26/trump-suggests-whistleblower-committed-treason/

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Trump threatens retaliation against whistleblower (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2019 OP
Holy F/N shit. TruckFump Sep 2019 #1
Just more projecting by Trump ArcticFox Sep 2019 #32
+1,000 n/t MarcA Sep 2019 #66
Someone should have asked him if he knows what we used to do with traitors Perseus Sep 2019 #48
Or just under a ship Bob Loblaw Sep 2019 #78
Because nothing says "I'm innocent" like threatening your accuser. Initech Sep 2019 #2
+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #12
Like the women who accused him of sexual violence during the '16 campaign flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #35
Yeah true, and like I keep saying: Initech Sep 2019 #49
I had to take a double, HE SAID WHAT? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #62
This breaks the law./full stop/end of bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #3
That's a death threat malaise Sep 2019 #4
Public recorded Game Changer. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #6
This will get prime time coverage malaise Sep 2019 #8
And the Cable Newsies Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #13
And he's only going to get more unhinged. Buckle up!! n/t joost5 Sep 2019 #54
Seriously, Donny keep digging that hole! Initech Sep 2019 #30
Let Hillary yell out "lock him up." demosincebirth Sep 2019 #79
That evidence will resonate in the court of public opinion empedocles Sep 2019 #5
he has totally snapped, MSNBC is saying he wants the whistleblower shot Celerity Sep 2019 #7
oh, he is really mentally ill bdamomma Sep 2019 #20
I am so afraid of violence from MAGATS, if just 1/100th of 1% of them (not all voted) Celerity Sep 2019 #24
Yeah, "strong-arming" and threatening to withhold money is only OK if your name ends in "rump" flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #39
Donald Duterte superpatriotman Sep 2019 #9
"I'll be honest with you." 3catwoman3 Sep 2019 #10
That comment will convince a few more people (perhaps senators) that Trump has lost it. Stuart G Sep 2019 #11
I don't think he is crazy. I think he us just crazy angry leftyladyfrommo Sep 2019 #25
He can't "out-lawyer" the United States of America. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #53
He's in Trump University's Step 3 of "How to negotiate out of treasonous acts." joost5 Sep 2019 #60
Just deplorable bdamomma Sep 2019 #27
He's a sociopath. They have no concern for the law because they littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #61
And they think they are so much smarter than everyone else leftyladyfrommo Sep 2019 #84
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #87
That is also an admission of guilt. Kingofalldems Sep 2019 #14
The old days were when Trumpy's grandfather ran a brothel. n/t Eyeball_Kid Sep 2019 #15
Does someone need to remind him of the Rosenberg's? woodsprite Sep 2019 #16
sounds very Kim Jong-un of him bdamomma Sep 2019 #17
Like you "handled it" in any way, you obsequious blob of orange goo! MineralMan Sep 2019 #18
So add a charge of witness tampering to the Impeachment. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #19
Another impeachable offense. spanone Sep 2019 #21
"That's close to a spy" Sugar Smack Sep 2019 #22
Well now that you've brought it up. gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #23
Classic stochastic terrorism... albacore Sep 2019 #26
I'm sure Rudy will advise him that if this is a protected complaint (which spooky3 Sep 2019 #28
Rudy is as nuts as Trump is. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #38
and dishonest, and incompetent, and narcissistic, and.....nt spooky3 Sep 2019 #58
No way any GOPers ScratchCat Sep 2019 #29
"When we were smart with spies and treason". How is that not the end of this??? Bleacher Creature Sep 2019 #31
Yep, no coded talk here either. PaulRevere08 Sep 2019 #33
Holy shit, he just threatened to KILL the whistleblower. WTF? SunSeeker Sep 2019 #34
still defending this shithead there repubs..... dhill926 Sep 2019 #36
Where is the fucking FBI? onecaliberal Sep 2019 #37
And yet I saw TWO opinion pieces today in the Guardian FiveGoodMen Sep 2019 #40
you know what they say about opinions... flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #43
There again, he's violating the law, one that specifically protects WBs from criminals like HIM! ffr Sep 2019 #41
Witness Tampering?? Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #42
Somebody take the shovel away from him. It's painful to watch him dig... n/t TygrBright Sep 2019 #44
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2019 #45
Fucking Michael Schmidt again. triron Sep 2019 #47
I really do not like Schmidt Gothmog Sep 2019 #73
I am told the NYT cancellation wait time on the phone is up to 130 minutes Gothmog Sep 2019 #83
More from the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2019 #95
Another effing "outing" of a CIA officer, as whistleblower? Aww, Schmidt - you coulda been somebody. MFGsunny Sep 2019 #85
Trump just keeps digging his hole deeper. triron Sep 2019 #46
"...We used to handle it a little differently than we do now." Texin Sep 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #51
This is exactly how a criminal with power duforsure Sep 2019 #52
For anyone not believing our president is a thug, littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #55
"...in the old days..." Yeah, as if he'd know... Buns_of_Fire Sep 2019 #56
Would someone explain to Fat Donnie and his shit-for-brains enablers what treason is? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2019 #57
"I didn't do it!" Bradical79 Sep 2019 #59
Of course, that's illegal too. 25th Amendment yet? nt coti Sep 2019 #63
What a thug johnnyfins Sep 2019 #64
We have met the enemy and he is you Marthe48 Sep 2019 #65
witness intimidation.... garybeck Sep 2019 #67
Not wise to threaten intelligence agencies. n/t MarcA Sep 2019 #68
Sometimes I surprised one of his own hasn't put him out of their misery Alwaysna Sep 2019 #69
somebody get that man a bigger shovel.... mike_c Sep 2019 #70
Hey there God Emperor Puppet Sharpie Grokenstein Sep 2019 #71
They should now remove him today duforsure Sep 2019 #72
Yeah that is also an impeachable offense. yellowcanine Sep 2019 #74
My thoughts exactly The Liberal Lion Sep 2019 #77
+1, " ... I was just kidding ... " isn't going to cut it this time either uponit7771 Sep 2019 #89
Rudy needs to tell Trump to stop talking. yellowcanine Sep 2019 #75
Heh! Talk about the incompetent leading the incompetent! Grokenstein Sep 2019 #80
Whatever trump The Liberal Lion Sep 2019 #76
Greenwald and Snowden were unavailable for comment Blue_Tires Sep 2019 #81
I take it as Trump threatening the person(s) who suposedly gave the whistleblower the info Kaleva Sep 2019 #82
Oh, it's treason all right. ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #86
Trump Calls for Killing of Whistleblower dalton99a Sep 2019 #88
#CancelNYT Gothmog Sep 2019 #90
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Sep 2019 #92
If the whistleblower has access to information they should hughee99 Sep 2019 #93
NYT is making it hard to cancel Gothmog Sep 2019 #94

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
32. Just more projecting by Trump
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:34 PM
Sep 2019

He only accuses others of what he knows he himself to be guilty of. Trump likely knows he has been acting as a spy against Our Republic and has committed treason.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
48. Someone should have asked him if he knows what we used to do with traitors
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:54 PM
Sep 2019

Very different than we do now...we may end up doing it again, but now it takes so much longer...

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
35. Like the women who accused him of sexual violence during the '16 campaign
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:36 PM
Sep 2019

He threatened to sue them "after the election". I haven't noticed a peep from the Peach Menace since the election on that front.

His whole MO is to threaten anyone who dares stand up to him, to get them to back off. It's a ploy, and unfortunately it works much of the time.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
49. Yeah true, and like I keep saying:
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

Innocent people don't spend every waking minute of the day trying to convince you that they're not guilty. If you're accused of a crime like that, you shut the fuck up. Every time you open your mouth, no matter what, you're just digging that hole.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
62. I had to take a double, HE SAID WHAT?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:30 PM
Sep 2019


I suspect not much quality sleep for him & it's showing?

KARMA gonna need a nap!




 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. And the Cable Newsies
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:46 PM
Sep 2019

are full on reading GOP talking points. Notice in the last hour,Bloomberg is pushing the narrative that the Dems overstepped their bounds and it will cost them at the polls.

Here is a kicker,Wall Street is refusing to support a Warren Candidacy in favor of backing Trump.

Celerity

(43,327 posts)
7. he has totally snapped, MSNBC is saying he wants the whistleblower shot
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:40 PM
Sep 2019

plus this

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy

“You know, these animals in the press,” Trump went on. “They’re animals, some of the worst human beings you’ll ever meet.”

Someone in the room shouted out “Fake news!” egging the president on.

“They’re scum,” Trump continued. “Many of them are scum, and then you have some good reporters, but not many of them, I’ll be honest with you.”


He then accused Sen. Christopher S. Murphy (D-Conn.), who met with Zalensky in Kyiv this month, of pressuring the Ukrainian leader to accuse Trump of improper behavior.

“Democratic senators went over there and strong-armed the guy,” Trump said, affecting Murphy’s voice for a moment. “‘You better damn well do this or you’re not going to get any money from Congress.’ Oh, I see, that’s OK?”

“And then you have Sleepy Joe Biden who’s dumb as a rock,” Trump went on. “This guy was dumb on his best day and he’s not having his best day right now. He’s dumb as a rock. So you have Sleepy Joe and his kid, who’s got a lot of problems, he got thrown out of the Navy — look, I’m not going to, it’s a problem ... so we won’t get into why. He got thrown out of the Navy and now this kid goes into Ukraine, walks away with millions of dollars, he becomes a consultant for $50,000 a month and he doesn’t know anything compared to anybody at this firm. He’s a stiff. He knows nothing. He’s walking away with $50,000.”



bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
20. oh, he is really mentally ill
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:59 PM
Sep 2019

calling the press animals, he has got to go. Fucking tyrant. No one needs this kind of abuse from this POS, NO ONE.

Celerity

(43,327 posts)
24. I am so afraid of violence from MAGATS, if just 1/100th of 1% of them (not all voted)
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:10 PM
Sep 2019

go full lock n' load shooter mode, that is around 10,000 armed and active lunatics out there.

That rotten RW site Free Rethuglic has so many death threats on it, I cannot believe that FBI has not started a mass investigation of those rotters, hopefully they have. They are making clear and present danger shooter threats and incitements to open civil war.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
39. Yeah, "strong-arming" and threatening to withhold money is only OK if your name ends in "rump"
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:40 PM
Sep 2019

"Oh, I see, that’s OK?”

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
11. That comment will convince a few more people (perhaps senators) that Trump has lost it.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:43 PM
Sep 2019

And also, Trump has not lost it .."a little", Trump has lost it "a whole lot"

And threatening like this is totally wrong. (last sentence) It also shows that he..cannot "shut the fuck up" when he needs to "shut the fuck up."...another sign he has "lost it"

.....Also..this comment shows he does not support the Constitution of the U.S. , something he has sworn to uphold....
.........“You know, these animals in the press,” Trump went on. “They’re animals, some of the worst human beings you’ll ever meet.”

And that last one was the key.."..animals in the press"

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
25. I don't think he is crazy. I think he us just crazy angry
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:13 PM
Sep 2019

that he got caught. He is just a total asshole.

Now he is threatening everyone he can think of.

He's starting to realize he has blown it. He has made so many enemies that he is going to be standing there all by his asshole self. He's known all along what he was doing was unethical or illegal. But these narcissist jerks think they are so smart that no one will ever catch them.

But Pelosi got him. And he is raging.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
53. He can't "out-lawyer" the United States of America.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:12 PM
Sep 2019

That was his go-to weapon against any lawsuits brought against him when he was nothing more than a lying-sack-of-shit real estate swindler. He'd bury them in writs, continuances, etc. and just have his army of lawyers make it too expensive to continue their lawsuit. He can't outspend the United States government. He's not smart enough to know the difference between his business plan and how government works. He truly is a "fucking moron", as Rex Tillerson once said.

joost5

(421 posts)
60. He's in Trump University's Step 3 of "How to negotiate out of treasonous acts."
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:22 PM
Sep 2019

1) Deny, Play the victim, Claim how everything is fake and unfair
2) Accept parts of the truth that are undeniable but Deflect and blame others
3) Whataboutism -accuse the accuser of doing exact same thing
4) Threaten to sue for libel, obstruct further truths from seeing light of day
5) Manufacture diversion by being even worse of a human being (i.e. go into war, pardon horrible people, belittle teenagers that seek to better their futures, etc.)


He's caught. But that makes him very dangerous.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
27. Just deplorable
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:17 PM
Sep 2019
Also..this comment shows he does not support the Constitution of the U.S. , something he has sworn to uphold....
.........“You know, these animals in the press,” Trump went on. “They’re animals, some of the worst human beings you’ll ever meet.”


No you are a animal. Can't we arrest this POS?? he is threatening people. During a mental assessment they said is the person a threat to himself or others, in this case we can equivocally say He is a threat.

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
61. He's a sociopath. They have no concern for the law because they
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:23 PM
Sep 2019

Literally believe that laws don't apply to them, hence there's no need to conform to something that doesn't apply to them so talking about it otherwise doesn’t make sense.

Trump: It's just the law (shrug) and it doesn't apply to sociopaths and psychopaths like me.

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
16. Does someone need to remind him of the Rosenberg's?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:52 PM
Sep 2019

Seems like he, and a few others in his administration, could be looking at the same.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
17. sounds very Kim Jong-un of him
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:55 PM
Sep 2019
Said Trump: “I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”

Is that a threat you POS, now you sound like Putin, what's next poisoning.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
18. Like you "handled it" in any way, you obsequious blob of orange goo!
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 01:57 PM
Sep 2019

You never met a spy. You never served in our military. You've never done anything but boss people around and steal their money. Time's up, Donwald. Your secret is out. Resign now, while you still can!

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
22. "That's close to a spy"
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:03 PM
Sep 2019

Kid, it's never too late to begin reading books. It'll enhance your vocabulary.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
26. Classic stochastic terrorism...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:16 PM
Sep 2019

"the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted."

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
28. I'm sure Rudy will advise him that if this is a protected complaint (which
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:20 PM
Sep 2019

I believe it is), Trumpy has just violated the law again, because it protects complainants from retaliation.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
31. "When we were smart with spies and treason". How is that not the end of this???
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:24 PM
Sep 2019

There's no other way to interpret this.

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
36. still defending this shithead there repubs.....
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:36 PM
Sep 2019

god almighty, if this doesn't change things, what will. And yep, I'm reminded of the shooting someone on 5th Ave quote.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
40. And yet I saw TWO opinion pieces today in the Guardian
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:40 PM
Sep 2019

saying we shouldn't have impeached.

Treating the whole thing like political gamesmanship.

WTF!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
41. There again, he's violating the law, one that specifically protects WBs from criminals like HIM!
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:41 PM
Sep 2019

IMPEACH. IMPRISON. THROW AWAY THE KEY!

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
85. Another effing "outing" of a CIA officer, as whistleblower? Aww, Schmidt - you coulda been somebody.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:12 PM
Sep 2019

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT.

What kind of fugging policy at NYTimes permits THIS? On a whistleblower no less!

Have you no decency????????????????????????

STFU. How about listening to your in-house counsel who advised against it???????

I wish you an avalanche of cancelled subscriptions - digital and otherwise.

Let market forces tell YOU a story.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
50. "...We used to handle it a little differently than we do now."
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:01 PM
Sep 2019

Irony has died more than once today. Careful you old buckaroo. This comment will be remembered when you're on trial for treasonously consorting with a hostile foreign adversary.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
52. This is exactly how a criminal with power
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

Acts out after getting caught, and again shows his intend to obstruct anyone who exposes him by threats, and intimidation .

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
56. "...in the old days..." Yeah, as if he'd know...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:16 PM
Sep 2019

(Actually, Jimmy Cagney never said "You dirty rat," but this comes close.)

57. Would someone explain to Fat Donnie and his shit-for-brains enablers what treason is?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:16 PM
Sep 2019

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." United States Constitution, Article III, Section 3

It doesn't say anything about hurting a politician's feelings.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
69. Sometimes I surprised one of his own hasn't put him out of their misery
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:51 PM
Sep 2019

Because when he goes down they are going under the bus. I think we need a bigger bus.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
71. Hey there God Emperor Puppet Sharpie
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:59 PM
Sep 2019
"You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”


I know it's not in your, um, "skill" set, but maybe think before you speak? You really don't want us executing traitors again.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
72. They should now remove him today
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:03 PM
Sep 2019

Use the 25th for his threatening a whistle blower, and all his threats to our National Security. We're not safe with him there.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
82. I take it as Trump threatening the person(s) who suposedly gave the whistleblower the info
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019

" “I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy."

Response to RandySF (Original post)

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
93. If the whistleblower has access to information they should
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:21 AM
Sep 2019

Not have had access to, is this not cause for some concern? According to the quote, it sounds like Trump is going after the whistleblower’s source, who is not a whistleblower.

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