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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:20 PM Sep 2019

Whistle blower atty. Mark S. Zaid responds: "Publishing details about the whistleblower will only

Whistle blower atty. Mark S. Zaid responds: "Publishing details about the whistleblower will only lead to identification of someone, whether our client or the wrong person, as the whistleblower. This will place this individual in a much more dangerous situation




The NYT is reckless here. WTF were they thinking? They published the article after the president threatened the wb.
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Whistle blower atty. Mark S. Zaid responds: "Publishing details about the whistleblower will only (Original Post) MelissaB Sep 2019 OP
Dreadful editorial decision on the part of the NYT. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #1
And we have Russian bdamomma Sep 2019 #13
One is sitting in.... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #18
Bwahahaha! Ligyron Sep 2019 #25
Well bdamomma Sep 2019 #36
Thank you Melissa! Seriously - journalists are so interested in profit and fame IndyOp Sep 2019 #2
Hold on a second PJMcK Sep 2019 #30
THANKS! jayschool2013 Sep 2019 #32
Journalists make judgement calls IndyOp Sep 2019 #33
The way the amoral pig is talking he would love to know who it is... Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #3
Not good. MelissaB Sep 2019 #4
Thank you, Melissa - I had just checked his and Bakaj's tweets for a statement, found nothing- Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #5
I agree! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #6
Shame on the NYT. StarryNite Sep 2019 #7
The NYT has a lot of blood on its hands already BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #10
Disagree... brooklynite Sep 2019 #8
I'd bet they could as well, but the Times just pointed right to him/her saving them a LOT of time. MelissaB Sep 2019 #14
It's not the WH (be sure they know who it is), it is the deplorables to watch out for: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #23
I don't think a CIA agent needs to worry about some good ol' boys from Alabama. brooklynite Sep 2019 #24
NYT working hard at throwing monkey wrenches into the process BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #9
Trump just referred that the Whistle-blower BillE Sep 2019 #11
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2019 #12
NYT obviously not a favorite with DU stopdiggin Sep 2019 #15
Exactly! nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #16
Especially after tRump has publicly threatened present and future witnesses and whistleblowers. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #17
Hey, NYT: STFU! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #19
Witness protection should be an after-thought at this moment. We're talking powerful mobsters ffr Sep 2019 #20
Christopher Steele disappeared for a while after his identity released...he knew how wiggs Sep 2019 #21
NY Times turned right wing some time ago ArcticFox Sep 2019 #22
considering the kind of stuff that the REAL right wing is publishing these days .. stopdiggin Sep 2019 #28
I would caution you ArcticFox Sep 2019 #34
I think this person's identity... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #26
Maybe trump is the one who will or have someone leak it to the press and use it to threaten them, duforsure Sep 2019 #27
WTF NYT, we aren't going to tolerate this complicity anymore. Pepsidog Sep 2019 #29
Man, I'm so slow - just remembered that Pompeo was CIA Director from Jan. 2017 until April 2018. Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #31
Jesus! If they had his home address would they publish that too? flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #35
"Whether our client or the WRONG person" ecstatic Sep 2019 #37

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
1. Dreadful editorial decision on the part of the NYT.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:23 PM
Sep 2019

Zaid is absolutely correct, not just the WB, but anyone who might erroneously be presumed to be the WB is at serious risk now.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
18. One is sitting in....
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:45 PM
Sep 2019

the Oval Office. He has orange skin, little white ovals around his eyes, is an adherent of William Howard Taft's health regimen, has some sort of dead animal curled atop his head, and has spent one third of his time in office at his various golf courses. I refuse to name names though.

IndyOp

(15,522 posts)
2. Thank you Melissa! Seriously - journalists are so interested in profit and fame
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:23 PM
Sep 2019

that they've lost integrity. Standards. Decency.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
30. Hold on a second
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019

Journalists have many more attributes than you've stated. When they learn information, their job is to inform the public without prejudice.

Consider the alternatives and where would you draw a line?

Incidentally, your comment sounds like something Trump would say.

Please reconsider your view of the free press and the First Amendment.

IndyOp

(15,522 posts)
33. Journalists make judgement calls
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

The recent outing of the intelligence agent who worked extremely closely with Putin and the - very near - outing of this whistleblower are extremely concerning to me.

Journalists have to make judgement calls - it is not as simple as reporting all information without prejudice.

Reputable journalists did not report identifying information about the intelligence agent - even after the craptastic outlets had reported the information. The agent deserves safety and so does his family. Ditto for the whistleblower.

I am not in favor of external control of what journalists report - I want them to reconsider their current standards.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. The way the amoral pig is talking he would love to know who it is...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:28 PM
Sep 2019

so he can attack him or her. If they don't know who it is, there is none of this "23 Democrats" crap he pulled with Mueller.

Not to mention if he figures it out, he will suing them on some bee ess, divine right of Kings scam.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
4. Not good.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:33 PM
Sep 2019
As of this morning, the Inspector General would have made sure that EVEN THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE would be deprived clues as to the identity of the whistleblower.

And the New York Times DIRECTLY inserts itself into an ongoing counterintelligence investigation.


Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. Thank you, Melissa - I had just checked his and Bakaj's tweets for a statement, found nothing-
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:34 PM
Sep 2019

Wtf, indeed

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
6. I agree!
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:37 PM
Sep 2019

Trump has already telegraphed from his panicked brain that whistleblowing amounts to 'spying,' and that spies are dealt with differently.



BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
10. The NYT has a lot of blood on its hands already
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:43 PM
Sep 2019

Two things come to mind: Their jingoistic reporting on the Iraq War and the “But her emails!1” coverage from 2016. The NYT is kind of a shit show tbh.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
23. It's not the WH (be sure they know who it is), it is the deplorables to watch out for:
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:34 PM
Sep 2019

From just one (1) thread at the hive of scum and villainy (emphasis added):

Stunning how we’re watching participants of a Gov. Coup in action as the Dems question this man....just stunning.
_____________
It is stunning and sickening.
And Schiff would look good hanging from a tree.
156 posted on 9/26/2019, 11:40:50 AM by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)


Oath Keeper alert.
2 posted on 9/26/2019, 9:39:29 AM by rrrod

Complaint was filed a month ago. Once again Democrat coupists move against POTUS in weeks while we wait years for the GOP to even start investigations against criminal Democrats.
48 posted on 9/26/2019, 10:42:00 AM by lodi90

For all you guys saying this was a brilliant trap set by our President it was not, not even close. It is instead a high crime to have leaked this call, that to me is the offense here. The left is unworthy to hold office, there is no sense of law and or winning on merit or ideas, a time is coming when we will be unable to live them I fear unless the younger generation comes around.

At this point, I am leaning toward our President being impeached and removed from office due to the overpowering influence of the MSM and sheer hatred of our President. If facts mattered I would say zero chance, but they don't matter, not one bit, and with lefties all over the government ready and willing to leak confidential information our President cannot function as he needs to. Full Scale political war starts the moment he is removed. We haven't seen anything compared to the likes of what is coming ...
49 posted on 9/26/2019, 10:42:15 AM by GulfMan

Zaid, Bakaj... sound like names from the Muslim part of the world. Might not be anything in those names, or might be part of a deep antipathy towards Trump.
Not to mention, these guys were CIA connected!
78 posted on 9/26/2019, 10:56:23 AM by Pearls Before Swine

He has a punchable face
85 posted on 9/26/2019, 11:01:15 AM by redshawk (Willie's Whore was bused......oh my...lying pig)

God will let these creeps expose themselves and then it will backfire....
141 posted on 9/26/2019, 11:30:21 AM by caww

I say let the Democrats go forward and try to impeach POTUS, Donald J. Trump. If they do, they will have one of two things in their faces....a revolution from we, the American people (96% of the American people according to the “Drudge Report” are against impeachment at all, or having the Senate kill the impeachment request) and the destruction of the entire traitor Democrat Party. Go for it, Nancy...girl!!! The American people are waiting for your words one way or the other!!!
155 posted on 9/26/2019, 11:40:43 AM by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)

“Bet there wasn’t any whistle blower but just a bunch of demonrats out to do evil. Of course, they’ll find one to be the fall guy.”

Agree.... it is just another attempt to attack the president in the ongoing coup. 2A mentions something about a militia and it probably scares the crap out of democrats/socialists.
217 posted on 9/26/2019, 12:15:25 PM by DOC44

The Democrat Party awaits the hangman’s noose around it’s “TRAITOR” neck. The American voter is going to destroy the entire Democrat Party like they have never seen before. The elections coming on in this November (There are only a few) will show the distaste of American voters, for the Democrat Party....but...the 2020 POTUS election will produce devastating political results for the entire Democrat Party. Nancy Pelosi has slit the throat of the Democrat Party, forever!!! Watching Democrat, SATAN, Adam Schiff became boring....so I will not be watching any more of this total farce!!!
256 posted on 9/26/2019, 12:35:11 PM by JLAGRAYFOX

Schiff and his co-conspirators so want a banana republic. Maybe he should just disappear off the sidewalk, along with select others.
330 posted on 9/26/2019, 1:34:52 PM by Truth29

BillE

(137 posts)
11. Trump just referred that the Whistle-blower
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:47 PM
Sep 2019

and his source are spy's 'and you know what they do to spy's'. (Paraphrasing) Sounds like he thinks they should be killed. A dictator in the making?

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
15. NYT obviously not a favorite with DU
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:11 PM
Sep 2019

but anyone who didn't think this was coming within a matter of days, if not hours .. particularly after the complaint was released, and the whistleblower is queuing up testimony ... Where ya' been? All this really says is the the Times has good reporters and good sources. Just slightly ahead of the competition .. but you can be assured the rest of the pack will get there!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
20. Witness protection should be an after-thought at this moment. We're talking powerful mobsters
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 03:55 PM
Sep 2019

with Fox News ready and willing to broadcast to their minions to act in evil ways against "enemies of the United States" as they see it.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
21. Christopher Steele disappeared for a while after his identity released...he knew how
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:01 PM
Sep 2019

dangerous it is to go against TPTB.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
22. NY Times turned right wing some time ago
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:20 PM
Sep 2019

The paper tries to appear left leaning, but routinely publishes things to help the right. At least that's the sense I've gotten over the past several years.

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
28. considering the kind of stuff that the REAL right wing is publishing these days ..
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:05 PM
Sep 2019

I think you should reconsider. My opinion, but .. putting organizations like the Times in the opposite camp .. leaves a diminishingly small sliver of territory left on this side. Don't always like what they run .. but I still prefer to ascribe them honest motives. I would distinguish that from outlets that I DO NOT think aspire to honest journalism. (and I think we should be careful about attacking the press, lest we play into the hands of the authoritarian types?)

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
34. I would caution you
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019

I'm not putting the NYT in one camp or the other. The NYT has control over that. Our wishing or believing that our territory were larger doesn't make it so.

All I'm saying is: keep your guard up. Reporting that seems to be fair, and even truly fair reporting, can often provide cover for pushing right wing ideas.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
26. I think this person's identity...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:58 PM
Sep 2019

... will be revealed. The media, White House, and foreign adversaries will all know the identity. The NYT may feel it might as well be them... a sad reality... I was happy the person was revealed to be CIA - it means the person has more than average knowledge about how to remain safe.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. Maybe trump is the one who will or have someone leak it to the press and use it to threaten them,
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:59 PM
Sep 2019

Then incite people to use against them , then have denials ready again. We've seen him do this before.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
31. Man, I'm so slow - just remembered that Pompeo was CIA Director from Jan. 2017 until April 2018.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:15 PM
Sep 2019

Seriously sloooow

Frickin hell, very uncool

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
35. Jesus! If they had his home address would they publish that too?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:54 PM
Sep 2019

WTF NYT? Dox much?

I've cancelled my subscription, this is just too much. Switching to WaPo.

Yes, I know they have done much that is good. But this needs to be stopped. FFS Trump would have their own reporters murdered if he could get away with it, and as we know, he's all but come out and ordered his knuckle-dragging minions to do just that. Enough!

ecstatic

(32,699 posts)
37. "Whether our client or the WRONG person"
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:01 AM
Sep 2019

That's such an important point raised: The NYT could be completely wrong in their assessment of the whistle blower's position and background. This could lead to the harassment or death of an unrelated person who fits the description given by the Times.

Hell, who was their source anyway? The same anonymous White House stooges who described the Ukraine call as not containing a quid pro quo?

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