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My take? In the end, Trump didn't think Pelosi had the guts or the guns (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2019 OP
She exploited his over active saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #1
Hoe many women have ever stood up to him and held him accountable? Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #2
No Marla Maples did. She coned him and received more than her iron clad prenup. Oppaloopa Sep 2019 #8
I didn't know that! Good for her. Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #13
She also had an affair with Michael Bolton. Good for her. dewsgirl Sep 2019 #29
He actually pushed exploiting the Constitution and U.S. laws before poking at Pelosi. machoneman Sep 2019 #3
Never under estimate a woman who... TruckFump Sep 2019 #4
Pelosi had the guts and the guns... He didn't. dchill Sep 2019 #5
Don't forget the BALLS ! Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #34
And some poor schlub has been telling Donnie all day, tanyev Sep 2019 #6
Actually, she does. calimary Sep 2019 #45
Love that lillypaddle Sep 2019 #7
I hope we are getting closer to the release of the children on the boarder. Oppaloopa Sep 2019 #9
Yes lillypaddle Sep 2019 #11
The Court shot him down on his attempt to be able to detain them "indefinately." Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #35
Twitler has been screwing people his entire, pathetic life and getting away with it. Phoenix61 Sep 2019 #10
+1 2naSalit Sep 2019 #31
Yes indeed. We have had a three-year advanced course in studying calimary Sep 2019 #46
And remember not fooled Sep 2019 #12
GOD that would be awesome if she brought handcuffs when these assclowns gets impeached flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #20
+1. Barr is a vile, corrupt piece of shit dalton99a Sep 2019 #42
iow Skittles Sep 2019 #14
Piling up evidence.. Nancy did it at Cha Sep 2019 #15
I must bow to Madam Speaker, Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #36
Hey Aloha, Haggis! Cha Sep 2019 #37
welcome to the Revolution CatWoman Sep 2019 #38
From JHB's thread malaise Sep 2019 #16
only it's not just poking Skittles Sep 2019 #18
Agree malaise Sep 2019 #21
100% Lib 4 Life Sep 2019 #17
When Trump offered "the deal" to her, Trump was so sure she would take "the deal" at that moment. Stuart G Sep 2019 #19
And he thought he was made of steel Ahpook Sep 2019 #22
In the end, Trump didn't think. Period. Jim__ Sep 2019 #23
He just doesn't understand how thing actually work. paleotn Sep 2019 #24
word CatWoman Sep 2019 #25
Up to now trump and his people have had no reason to fear as they beachbumbob Sep 2019 #26
Don't even start on his emoluments violations. maddiemom Sep 2019 #40
If I was Pelosi, Iwould pass legislation in the house even with no chance to see a vote in the beachbumbob Sep 2019 #41
that's an EXCELLENT idea, BBB CatWoman Sep 2019 #43
Pelosi knew it was important to get most of the Democrats to support it JI7 Sep 2019 #27
her hand has been forced Skittles Sep 2019 #28
Didn't think. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #30
And neither did many self-described progressives. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #32
i'll give you an "amen" on that CatWoman Sep 2019 #33
She predicted he would impeach himself. She has caught tons of shit for not impeaching before now GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #39
i wish like hell I could rec your post CatWoman Sep 2019 #44
She rope-a-doped him, made him think she wouldn't do it after Mueller. There he stuck his hand in NCLefty Sep 2019 #47

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
1. She exploited his over active
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:55 PM
Sep 2019

propensity to attempt bribing women with bobbles, and when refused he explodes with anger.

Brava, Madame Speaker

I have no respect for anyone who disrespects others.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
2. Hoe many women have ever stood up to him and held him accountable?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019

My guess? Zero.

Nancy did say he would impeach himself! She is a national
treasure.

machoneman

(4,003 posts)
3. He actually pushed exploiting the Constitution and U.S. laws before poking at Pelosi.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:44 PM
Sep 2019

The Speaker is merely a by-product in that she's doing her job to show Trump is violating the Constitution and other laws.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
34. Don't forget the BALLS !
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:59 PM
Sep 2019

She's had his in her hands since Day One. He was just too arrogant and misogynistic to see it.

tanyev

(42,528 posts)
6. And some poor schlub has been telling Donnie all day,
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:00 PM
Sep 2019

“No, she doesn’t have a supervisor you can call.”
“No, there’s no court that has jurisdiction over a presidential impeachment.”

calimary

(81,139 posts)
45. Actually, she does.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:24 AM
Sep 2019

Her supervisors are the San Francisco voters who sent her to Congress in the first place and then kept her there! And good luck calling them to complain, donald. They won’t even bother answering you.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
11. Yes
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:34 PM
Sep 2019

They seem to be getting lost in all that's going on. Time for us to call, email, tweet our congress critters and urge them to continue the fight to free these kids and their families.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
35. The Court shot him down on his attempt to be able to detain them "indefinately."
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 10:01 PM
Sep 2019

And thank god for that.

Suck on THAT, Stephen Miller, you rat-faced little nazi bitch.

Phoenix61

(16,995 posts)
10. Twitler has been screwing people his entire, pathetic life and getting away with it.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:33 PM
Sep 2019

It never entered his mind that a day would come when he would be held accountable. How great that it's an amazing woman who is turning the screws. Somehow makes it sweeter.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
46. Yes indeed. We have had a three-year advanced course in studying
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:34 AM
Sep 2019

how he’s “done business” in midtown Manhattan and his various other properties, all his life. Lying, cheating, swindling, bullying, shaking people down, slithering away with his pockets bulging but leaving creditors, workers, contractors and subcontractors holding the bag. Selling his unsuspecting marks a pile of shit and skating away with ill-gotten gain. That’s how he’s lived his whole life.

Schmuck. Man, it’s gonna be hell by the time he finally has to pay the piper. More like - he’s gonna be IN Hell when he has to pay the piper. Or he’s gonna think it’s Hell.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
12. And remember
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:46 PM
Sep 2019

barr taunted her by asking "Did you bring the handcuffs?" when they met earlier this year.

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/us/politics/pelosi-barr.html|]

red don and his henchmen never took her seriously.


Cha

(296,893 posts)
15. Piling up evidence.. Nancy did it at
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:14 PM
Sep 2019

exactly the right time.

I don't care how many were dissing her in the mean time.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
36. I must bow to Madam Speaker,
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 10:03 PM
Sep 2019

cuz I was one of "them" dissing her for not moving sooner.

I think so many of us are frustrated at watching him wipe his fat ass with The Constitution every goddam day that our impatience got the better of us.

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
18. only it's not just poking
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:23 PM
Sep 2019

Trump was / is doing INCREDIBLE damage to America, and hurting a lot of people

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
19. When Trump offered "the deal" to her, Trump was so sure she would take "the deal" at that moment.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:37 PM
Sep 2019

He was so sure of "the deal" She would drop this and in return for........??

Right there and then, she beat the crap out of him without touching him. Nancy showed who the boss was at that very moment. Trump didn't have a clue then, and I wonder if he has a clue now? Does he know what is going to happen to him and his gang? Giuliani won't be able to protect him. Nobody can. He said it himself...."I thought it was all over.."

Pelosi and Schiff had different plans....
......................... But, Trump was sure that he would get away with it, and thought it was all over...

...........................But, Trump didn't realize it wasn't over until it is over.
..........................."It is not over yet. Mr.Trump".....

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
22. And he thought he was made of steel
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:45 PM
Sep 2019

Especially after the Mueller bit didn't really hurt him.

Which is damning! It is upsetting that it took this long. Better late than never?

paleotn

(17,888 posts)
24. He just doesn't understand how thing actually work.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:51 PM
Sep 2019

He actually thought he could come to some agreement with Speaker Pelosi. He really is that dumb. I don't think he fully understands what hot water he's in. If he thinks this is the worst of his problems, he's in for a rather rude surprise. This is just the dam breaking.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
26. Up to now trump and his people have had no reason to fear as they
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:34 PM
Sep 2019

have gotten away with lying to congress, ignoring countless subpoenas. Essentially laughing at us.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
41. If I was Pelosi, Iwould pass legislation in the house even with no chance to see a vote in the
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:11 AM
Sep 2019

Senate

1. no business can be done by federal govt or any agency which recieved federal dollars at any business interest entity a sitting president has a piece of

let McConnel defend trump fleecing america. I am not sure why in January 2019, this bill was not passed in the House.

2. All presidential "vacation time" is limited to no more than 4 weeks a year away from the WHITE HOUSE with a maximum cap of XXXX dollars. Any friends, family, entourage outside of the immediate security detail must be paid by president from personal funds

I am not sure why in January 2019, this bill was not passed in the House.

3. All "non-govt-related" travel is done at the personal expense of the president to cover total cost including security detail. The "campaign rallies" are not govt-related"

I am not sure why in January 2019, this bill was not passed in the House.


democrats could have been hitting McConnel and Trump over excessive taxpayer wasted spending that McConnel protects

JI7

(89,241 posts)
27. Pelosi knew it was important to get most of the Democrats to support it
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:37 PM
Sep 2019

and also avoid making it like she was pushing them to support it.

if she had done this earlier the story would be about democrats disagreeing with each other.

right now the focus is on trump's actions.

CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
33. i'll give you an "amen" on that
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:22 AM
Sep 2019

at times it was completely infuriating reading some of the anti Pelosi threads in this forum

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. She predicted he would impeach himself. She has caught tons of shit for not impeaching before now
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Sep 2019

As have the minority on DU who agreed with her.

But she was waiting. I help tell stories for a living. The first key to winning over an audience is a simple narrative that can be explained in 3 sentences. Politics is the same.

She knew if she waited the opportunity would present itself. And it did. Here is the truth we are telling:

Trump asked a head of state to help him win in 2020 but manufacturing dirt on his most dangerous opponent. He was withholding badly need aid when he made the request. And he admitted it.

Once she got that the hammer dropped. She has moved with speed and clarity that astounds even this supporter. She wants this wrapped up by Christmas.

Not because she has any illusions he will be kicked out of office or resign, although the hope is still there. But to give the American people time to fully absorb what he did. When the senate acquits he may get a bump. But the next 9 months the simple and true narrative we tell will take its toll.

When we win in 2020 she will be remembered as the greatest speaker in 100 years.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
47. She rope-a-doped him, made him think she wouldn't do it after Mueller. There he stuck his hand in
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 05:09 AM
Sep 2019

the cookie jar yet again...

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