Nancy Pelosi's quarter century of experience on intel may well have saved the USA

[Baltimike]

I remember how strongly they were screaming not to make her our leader...."we need younger, fresher blood" they said. I am so glad they were over ruled. At times like these, I think back on times like that, and wonder if they were active measures.

Our nation is under attack, any way you slice it. We will get through it...together. Because we are stronger...together.

I have a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi, and the six other chairs who weren't snookered into sucker bets, and used their experience to lead us. They lined up the ducks....got them in a row....and...there's hope.

[saidsimplesimon]

1. Who was doing this screaming?

Maybe, I view the world from "rose coloured" glasses. If I recall, a "liberal" group at Daily Kos, sent Madame speaker dozens of roses.

[Hekate]

2. A small but very vocal group of DUers who just would not quit, that's who.

Very very vocal, and not amenable to persuasion.

[safeinOhio]

3. She was waiting for the right moment.

I’d get indigestion when I saw those post complaining about her leadership on impeachment. You go Nancy, I’ve got your back.

[DownriverDem]

37. Me too

We all know this isn't normal times and we better have folks in place that have the experience and know what is going on. Pelosi knows exactly what she is doing and trump & the White House are clueless. Remember Bill Clinton had a War Room? No one in trump's White House know anything.

[saidsimplesimon]

4. Thanks, Hekate

I've a highly developed ability to "turn a deaf ear" and ignore those comments that sound, well, as ignorant as ....

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. I think it's definitely a plus to stand up for what is right

And if people here and on other social media sites hadn't been pushing every day...to do what is right, who knows where we'd be now?

Many suspected that leadership (and uncommitted House members) were waiting for trump to do something else wrong - even worse than all the other things he had done wrong. Which of course he did. Let's just hope it all proceeds as swiftly as possible.

[emmaverybo]

27. No complaints on pushing to do what's right, but expressing a terrible lack of confidence in

Pelosi’s proven past great leadership and persistently attacking her got to some of us.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. I never heard anyone attack her except maybe on Twitter

It was immensely frustrating just waiting and wondering why?? Her approval of Impeachment was what everyone was waiting on.

I think the most honest way to look at it is that she and a House contingency we're waiting for something super bad. Bad enough to move. The rest, of Dems, to a varying degree...66-80 something percent thought he had done enough already.

But totally understand that you can not actually say that. "I am waiting for trump to do something so horrible I can't ignore." You can't come right out and say, wait, he will do worse.

Thankfully it all worked out and everyone on same team now.

[DownriverDem]

38. Not just twitter

Folks were really pushing to bring her down. They ignored her influence and leadership.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. Imagine thinking SO strongly that trump needed

to be held accountable. Like the 6 Dems who introduced Articles in 2017 ( led by Steve Cohen D-TN). And everyday you realize it won't really happen unless one person (along with staunch followers) gets on board. And months go on and on. Crimes mount up. And it's still doesn't happen. And only guesses as to why. What, honestly, do you expect than for people to target her? Not discounting her service, but trying to get something moving.

Not really sure why this has not been more about trump than Pelosi. But do understand your feelings.

[Me.]

26. Not JUst Duers...Pundits

how many times did Michele Goldberg and Jason Johnson outright call the Dems and Nancy cowards? Joy Reid and her guests have been jumping all over them for months. Rachel just a few days ago was disdainful and O'Donnell had to have his say too. The rants have been numerous and mean. Sorry to say even Sen Warren said if she didn't act she'd be complicit. On and on it went.

[emmaverybo]

28. All of the above went way too far in vilifying Nancy Pelosi and aggressively challenging her

leadership in most unfair terms.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. You keep saying that. Don't understand why. The

Dems were overwhelming for Impeachment. She was the one person that needed to join in and say YES. It could have been anyone seemingly standing in the way. Anyone. The fact that she just happened to be a great speaker of the house had zero to do with anything.

[emmaverybo]

43. I will say it again. I understand absolutely why she did not lead the charge to impeach

earlier and I do not endorse the kind of criticism of her that “all of the above” made.

[40RatRod]

49. Agree!

[Baltimike]

53. this. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. And dozens more. Dozens of good an admirable

Democrats plus 73% of the party.

Correct me if I am wrong but you sound like you take the Speaker's reputation more seriously than holding the monster accountable. Your right!

[Me.]

41. That's Just Plain Silly

Laura should stop pouring you drinks

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. What part is silly?

[KPN]

48. Thank you for all of that.

[Skittles]

63. none of it

you nail it Laura

[LiberalFighter]

34. Yes they were

[CatWoman]

46. i could name names, but .....................

[mcar]

18. Maybe you weren't on DU at the time

Lots of people here were strongly advocating for another speaker - some even suggested AOC. Those of us who said we needed Pelosi's experience to deal with this criminal administration were ignored.

Kind of like how so many were ignored when we advocated voting for HRC, at the very least for the SCOTUS.

[saidsimplesimon]

21. I was lurking then, sure, Mrs. Clinton

would win the election. It's a mistake I hope not to repeat.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. So what. Are you saying Dems don't have the right

To have a differing opinion? It is everyone's right, for whatever reason, to back anyone they want.

[DownriverDem]

23. No really

There were left leaners, not just at Daily Kos, yelling for her to take a hike.

[wasupaloopa]

5. It is funny how one week Pelosi needs to go then the next

she has saved the democracy.

A few months ago she was not fit to be Speaker and then she was brilliant!

Where are her detractors hiding out today?

Do we get an apology here?

When we said impeachment was not ready to happen yet, no factual witnesses etc.

WE WERE RIGHT!

[wryter2000]

6. I have seen a few apologies here

A few DUers who said they'd misjudged the Speaker and now realize she handled this the right way.

[wasupaloopa]

7. That's good. The drama queens who like

getting attention are probably hiding out

[Perseus]

11. "she has saved the democracy."...I think we need to wait and see how things develop before

shouting victory...There is a lot to go and we all know the GOP fights hard and dirty.

Kudos to Democrats who are finally moving things, and I do want to stay positive, but the creature seems to have more lives than cats, so I will wait and see how things develop.

[Catch2.2]

8. Along with Impeachment Inquiry, the Dems now need to

control the narrative with the American people. Get the message out! Don't let Fox and the Republicans spin this!

[Perseus]

13. Very well said..."control the narrative with the American people" is very important

That is what the republicans tried to do today during the hearing, as good lemmings they are, most of them started their questioning with the same insulting narrative. They really are trash!

[Baltimike]

24. The conservative press will prop them up each step of the way

we can only try to stay one step ahead, or just starve them for attention.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. It is scary. It's like there is a news force that can't

be tamed. Nothing, no matter how vile and horrible, can survive more than 48 hrs.

This phenomenon can be combatted with focus, intense focus, and a savvy media plan.

[StarfishSaver]

29. One of the reasons for the recess

It gives the Members an opportunity to fan out across the country to their districts where they can talk to their constituents and do lots of local media.

I'll bet that each of them left DC armed with a large media kits and targeted talking points.

Of course we haven't seen their packets because Democratic staffers aren't in full-blown panic mode and didn't email them out to the entire House of Representatives ...

[Erda]

58. I heard on NPR . . .

that the Republicans are planning a massive ad campaign to sway public opinion against impeachment and against the democrats.

We need to be prepared.

[Catch2.2]

59. Thats the problem...

We need to go on the offensive. The Dems always wait and let the Republicans control the narrative. If we wait for the Republicans to start their ad campaign and then respond, we've already lost.

[OnDoutside]

9. 100% correct and true.

[lillypaddle]

10. You are soooo right on nt

[BadGimp]

12. Great post

thank you!

you captured many of my high-level observations and instinctive reactions

[AllaN01Bear]

14. i remember the right wing baddgering her for years that they would love to get rid of her.

just yesterday a friend of mine called her a "terror".

[NurseJackie]

15. I'll never forgive those who were demeaning and insulting her with claims that SHE was the scandal...

I'll never forgive those who were demeaning and insulting her with claims that SHE was the scandal… things like that only caused division and tension and distrust and resentment. Rather than working with her and TRUSTING her, there was a certain element who chose to try and publicly embarrass her (presumably because she wasn't proceeding "fast enough" for their liking.)

All I'm trying to say is that *I* trusted Nancy Pelosi... she's go the wisdom and experience, she knows the law, and she knows how things work. We are very fortunate to have her.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Not a single mention of Trump and his crimes ?

[NBachers]

16. I never stopped supporting her; I never stopped defending her; especially here. My representative!

[Stuart G]

17. YES...K and R

[ismnotwasm]

19. Yes. And If it wouldn't ruin my day

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I’d go on an internet search for such opinions. Just to see who had changed their tune.

[malaise]

22. Great post

Rec

[lindysalsagal]

25. Honestly. All congresspeople should study her career.

A treasure.

[GulfCoast66]

30. Had we impeached before now it would have killed us.

And Nancy and the moderate members of her caucus knew it. He deserved it, but the ‘story’ was complicated and messy.

But this is straight forward abuse of power and more importantly Bribery which is actually mentioned in the constitution. This is a text book reason for impeachment. Nancy figured that out in 48 hours. Did a 180 and pounced.

As what he did sinks in with Americans it is going to get worse for him.

But had this or something like it not occurred Nancy would have taken the heat and not impeached. At all.

That woman know more about politics in her little finger than most on DU (myself definitely including)

[Texin]

44. It ain't SAVED yet. Let's hold all applause until the curtain closes on tRump.

[Baltimike]

45. But there *is* hope...and that's something. nt

[bdamomma]

47. She knows what she is doing

and we did too when we voted for our party in 2018. We too need some credit.

Also these committees which are still working to restore our democracy

House Judiciary
House Oversight and Reform
House Ways and Means
House Intelligence
and House Financial Svcs.

[KPN]

50. Nancy Pelosi is a great speaker ... no question. And she did the right thing in announcing an

impeachment inquiry in response to the whistle-blower complaint. She definitely deserves credit and our appreciation for that. She did the right thing when she felt the time was right. It was also a time when it was abundantly obvious that it was the right thing. She knew that and responded as a good leader should.

My hat is off to Speaker Pelosi for exerting real leadership in a time of real crisis. I am ecstatic that she did.

And I disagree strongly with those here who feel some others -- also here -- owe her or anyone else an apology for not announcing an impeachment inquiry sooner. We are all fortunate that a true patriot finally came forward in the form of a whistle-blower. My gratitude goes to that person first.

[redstatebluegirl]

51. Love Speaker Pelosi, the people here bashing her are just stirring the pot.

[Politicub]

52. K&r with gratitude for Speaker Pelosi!

[samplegirl]

54. Just as they think

If Biden makes a gaff which refers to his age related generation... his experience dosen’t count!

[BlueWI]

55. Democracy isn't saved yet.

We still have a rogue president trading away state secrets, a Republican Senate majority in collusion with Trump, an FEC tied in knots, insecure election structure (some of the voting machines in Wisconsin are still running Windows 7), and a public to sway further towards supporting impeachment.

Settling old scores can be fun, but how about winning the game first?

[NCLefty]

56. She rope-a-doped him, made him think she wouldn't do it after Mueller. There he stuck his hand in

the cookie jar again. What a dope (and also a loser)!

[DinahMoeHum]

57. She's been looking for a smoking gun all this time. . .

. . .and now she's got it.

[NurseJackie]

60. I still chuckle when I recall how many wanted her to be replaced...

I still chuckle when I recall how many wanted her to be replaced with one of the incoming "high profile" freshmen... with so much whining and moaning and hand-wringing about how Nancy was "too old" and that it was time for the "new generation" to come in and "take over" because Pelosi had supposedly "lost it". So many lies and divisive smears and attacks were being encouraged. It was truly shameful.

I have a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi,

Yes indeed... we ALL owe Nancy Pelosi a debt of gratitude. (And there are many who owe her a fucking apology, too!)

[Baltimike]

62. They were a tad bit *obvious* I think. nt

[The Mouth]

61. She knew how to 'hold our fire'

She knew Cheeto Benito was going to fuck up beyond redemption.

She knew that the anger and angst of the younger members of our party was not a bad thing, nor they bad people, but that one has to wait when confronting a powerful and desperate opponent.

She took untoward abuse from the 'We've got to tod something now' group of -well-meaning and patriotic and open-eyed- younger members.

She knew what the republicans could blow off with obfuscating and 'look squirrel', and what they couldn't.

thank the Goddess we had and have her doing the strategy right now; all due props, admiration, and respect for the class of 18, and the kids in the streets, but sometimes you have to let the bud guys do themselves in, to make it stick in a court of law.