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Hello
If the Right to Life people are so hell bent against abortion I have a modest suggestion.
Make abortions illegal in the country except for rape and incest but on the conditions that the mother of the child indicates on a form that if she had the choice she would have gotten an abortion and that the right to lifers to any of the following:
1. Adoption those unwanted children who otherwise would have been aborted NO MATTER WHAT THEIR PHYSICAL OR MENTAL CONDITION IS.
2. Provide full funding to adopt those children by others.
Please don't tell me that the RTL people already do this I live in the south and the most effort they do is "adoption counseling" which is nothing more than convincing scared teens not to have an abortion.
This was not my idea but the idea of a conservative woman who was willing to put her money and beliefs where her mouth was.
If the RTL people believe that it is their moral and religious obligation to prevent as many abortions as possible it then stands that they have a moral and religious obligation to do everything in their power to make sure these unwanted babies have a home where they will be brought up right.
For the record I do not support all types of abortion. I do not support what I call "recreational abortion" where a woman gets pregnant after screwing around over and over again. I have very radical views on how to deal with that. I have other reservations also but I won't go into them.
I support abortion in cases of rape and incest and when the quality of life of the future child is threatened or at risk either physically or mentally.
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cynatnite
(31,011 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)It was not an event I went out and celebrated. In fact, I struggled over it for years. I wish I had had the strength to go through with the pregnancy and give it up for adoption, but I was not strong enough emotionally. I do believe that for me in my situation I did the best I could. I do believe in a woman's right to chose. I do believe in trying to reduce unwanted pregnancy by increasing access to sex education, and birth control. I also believe that if a mother decides to keep the baby then there should be social programs to help her and her baby. I also believe that adoption should be celebrated. It's really weird. The social conservatives don't really even encourage adoption anymore. They are so focused on calling the pregnant mother names for getting pregnant that they don't praise them for being selfless enough to give their babies up for adoption. All they want is to make abortion illegal. They don't give a damn about any of the other issues surrounding it, and therefore in my opinion don't really care about the unborn like they claim.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)The are more interested in preventing sex, period. Unless of course you're married. How long until the law of the land is that even married people can't have intercourse unless they are trying to have a baby?
nini
(16,672 posts)Hell, why stop at the woman if you're going to judge?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Can't be that hard to understand.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Who determines the proper amount of screwing around?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)As for your 'radical views on how to deal with that' - don't be shy, please.. do tell.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I believe in a woman's right to autonomy ... her right to control her reproductive fate as she chooses without the interference of anyone.
a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)I'll assume from your screen name that you are a dude. Therefore, you can take your opinion and stuff it. My ovaries and uterus thank you kindly for minding your own goddamned business about the private affairs of women's bodies.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hmmm, what could they be.
a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)And it's none of your fucking business what they decide to do with THEIR bodies.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)period.
Which one of your choices are you willing to give up? The choice as to who you'll vote for? Or the choice to get an education? Or the choice to marry or the choice to say what you're thinking? Or even the choice to own a gun?
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)to ban abortion are men. I keep on wanting to ask them if they've ever been pregnant.
And the whole exceptions for rape and incest is just a smokescreen to justify enslaving women and forcing them to bear babies. So, until men can get pregnant, and those same men are enthusiastically going through nine months of pregnancy and the entire childbirth thing, I don't think they're entitled to tell any other women what to do.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Just a bunch of rode hard and put up wet white guys.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Shown the door.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Whoever it is will be back.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)In general, forced birthers are also against birth control and social safety nets which support pregnant women and infants. The infant mortality rate in some areas of the US rival many 3rd world countries. Do you ever hear the forced birthers rallying for those babies?
Their agenda has nothing to do with saving the lives of "babies" or protecting the mental health of pregnant women. It's all about control. They believe that sex performed out of wedlock and for any purpose other than procreation is immoral. Therefore they want the consequences of those actions to be as high as possible. They have no interest in adopting those babies because they want the mothers taking care of them. Their motivations and methods really aren't that much different than other religions that seek to subjugate women.