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King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:16 AM Sep 2019

RE: Trump's implied execution of "spies" --

We tend to forget that Trump is seriously disturbed, clinically pathological, and that his modus operandi
is that of a severely impaired narcissist. This needs to be the first consideration at all times when
we try to understand his behavior.

Keeping in mind the psycho-dynamics of a narcissistic personality disorder, his reaction to the
whistle-blowers complaint is classic:

1) He gets angry and upset about being caught, unable to feel remorse or guilt about doing something
unethical or heinous.

2) He focuses this anger at the one who caught him in the act of doing something unethical or heinous.

3) He reacts to this narcissistic wound with narcissistic rage -- in this case, Trump's comment's which
allude to killing (executing) "spies" is a true reflection of his innermost feelings. He would like to KILL
the whistle-blower who has dared to challenge him and say "No"; and he would if he could! He can't
contain his rage. The thought that his words are a threat to the whistle-blower, which is against the law,
never entered his consciousness. He feels justified in his homicidal feelings.

BTW, all of his cohorts who are defending him are cut from the same piece of cloth.

This guy is truly sick. If you were a therapist, you would not want him as a client because he just might
kill you if you challenge his inflated ego or confront his slimy behavior.

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RE: Trump's implied execution of "spies" -- (Original Post) King_Klonopin Sep 2019 OP
Can you imagine this guy in times past where murder was more easily done? NCLefty Sep 2019 #1
Yuh, He has the makings of a great despot. n/t King_Klonopin Sep 2019 #2
Can you imagine putting this guy in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2019 #15
my best bud txtd this to me recently, which may or not be relevant dweller Sep 2019 #3
Yes, he has sociopathic and antisocial traits King_Klonopin Sep 2019 #4
It's amazing how so many of them trickle up into high government and.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #8
It's easier to climb over other people and cut ethical corners when you have no scruples, tblue37 Sep 2019 #13
My favorite therapist once said, "There are two kinds of people ... ancianita Sep 2019 #5
Maybe he's speaking in the 'code' that Cohn and Comey lunatica Sep 2019 #6
Exactly. One political pundit said that was a coded warning to other onetexan Sep 2019 #7
Stochastic terrorism. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #14
*Nope*. He doesn't get to avoid it by feigning insanity Baltimike Sep 2019 #9
Putin is the mastermind. Trump is a moron and a patsie. King_Klonopin Sep 2019 #18
he's mad because his sugar daddy putin can get away with murdering opponents and he can't, well, yaesu Sep 2019 #10
We also tend to forget that he is a mobster who uses coded malaise Sep 2019 #11
I agree. lunatica Sep 2019 #16
Go to any battered women's shelter and you will experience the root cause of Trump's illness. gordianot Sep 2019 #12
"Just my friendly reminder to you that lots of accidents can happen around here" struggle4progress Sep 2019 #17
15. Can you imagine putting this guy in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:32 AM
Sep 2019

Oh, that's right -- he is!

Fortunately, we've got adults in his administration that will keep his worse impulses in check.

Wait -- they've all been fired or have quit!

Augh!

dweller

(23,626 posts)
3. my best bud txtd this to me recently, which may or not be relevant
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:28 AM
Sep 2019

Trump is a sociopath. Sociopaths always speak in superlatives. There is no middle ground with them- things are either the best or the worst. It's a black and white world. Sociopaths (and all Axis-B personality disorders) were brain damaged at an early age due to an over-production of cortisol (the fight or flight hormone). It occurs from abuse (usually the mom) before the age of 3. The brain damage is visible on CT scans. Trump is brain-damaged. Very scary and dangerous.

it may be correct, but i dunno

✌🏼

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
4. Yes, he has sociopathic and antisocial traits
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:34 AM
Sep 2019

It's all on a continuum. He drifts in and out of all of them.

The neurology, as I understand it, has to do with a disconnect in the
frontal lobes. It may be a hard-wiring problem, a software problem, or
a combination of the two. I deal with these types all the time -- they
are horrible people because they have no conscience, no ethics and no
empathy. All terrific qualities for a public servant -- not!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
8. It's amazing how so many of them trickle up into high government and....
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:35 AM
Sep 2019

corporate positions.

Perhaps not though, when we consider those personality types are also typically extroverts and big bullshitters. Unfortunately, our general public seems to admire and fall for those types, especially the ones on Wall Street.

They're also some of the world's worst criminals.

KY......

tblue37

(65,295 posts)
13. It's easier to climb over other people and cut ethical corners when you have no scruples,
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:15 AM
Sep 2019

so in a corrupted society with few or weak ethical guardrails, sociopaths have a real advantage.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
5. My favorite therapist once said, "There are two kinds of people ...
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:02 AM
Sep 2019

those who have problems and know it, and those who have problems and don't know it."

In politics, those who know they their problems beat those who don't -- every time.




lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Maybe he's speaking in the 'code' that Cohn and Comey
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:07 AM
Sep 2019

told us about. You know, just put a suggestion out there when what he’s really doing is giving an order. That way he can ALWAYS claim he was just joking.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
7. Exactly. One political pundit said that was a coded warning to other
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:21 AM
Sep 2019

Aides & diplomats that they will be on the receiving end of his wrath if they cross him. He is a mob boss, remember.

Baltimike

(4,140 posts)
9. *Nope*. He doesn't get to avoid it by feigning insanity
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:41 AM
Sep 2019

We have the 28th amendment for that.

Nope. He's the head...the top...the buck stops there...and if it's prison on the psych ward, he gets the cell.

Fuck the whole "he's losing it" thing. He's a g-d genius who masterminded a Russian coup in our country

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
18. Putin is the mastermind. Trump is a moron and a patsie.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:18 PM
Sep 2019

And YES he should go to jail. Jails are full of sociopathic, antisocial and narcissistic
personalities. Jails are built for these types. Being a sociopath doesn't excuse him
from a jail; it explains it. Being a sociopath also provides a blueprint for us to
predict and understand his behavior. He's not psychotic, or divorced from reality.
He functions in reality in a pathological way which is evil.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. he's mad because his sugar daddy putin can get away with murdering opponents and he can't, well,
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:07 AM
Sep 2019

maybe he can.

malaise

(268,903 posts)
11. We also tend to forget that he is a mobster who uses coded
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:21 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

talk to push his agenda.
The Con threatened the lives of whistleblowers - lock him the fuck up.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
12. Go to any battered women's shelter and you will experience the root cause of Trump's illness.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:24 AM
Sep 2019

Actually the Narcissistic men who cause that pain are less involved than Trump. The only way to survive them is to get as far away as possible change your identity. Compared to Trump a realized Narcissist these men are the picture of mental health. Trump’s victims are not hapless women who made a bad choice of choosing a husband but the entire nation whom some elected him Big Brother. Trump is devoid of any conscience very few people have ever experienced an illness this profound.

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