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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites. It starts with your sitting silent while he lies..."
"Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room."
-James Comey, May 2019
I know he screwed some things up, but I feel like this man had this part of the situation analyzed correctly. This was done to him too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html
tblue37
(65,227 posts)else can be allowed to speak.
K&R.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
mia
(8,360 posts)Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.
It starts with your sitting silent while he lies,
Both in public and private,
Making you complicit by your silence.
His assertions about what 'everyone thinks' and what is 'obviously true'
Wash over you, unchallenged,
Because hes the president and he rarely stops talking.
He pulls all of those present into a silent circle of assent.
Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation,
He makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions.
I have felt it this president building with his words a web of alternative reality
and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room.
ms liberty
(8,558 posts)flying rabbit
(4,628 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)They talk non-stop and assume if you don't rudely interrupt them, you agree with their bullshit. And, they'll go tell their friends you agreed. Like tRump, they use lots of abrasive adjectives for everything.
I think this mode of dialog is typical of both cult members and their leaders.
Although raised not to do that, I found the only way to get an objection in is to interrupt and talk over them 'till they shut up.
Of course, no one will do that with tRump........
no_hypocrisy
(46,038 posts)Authoritarian and manipulative. When I protested, he attacked. I had a queasy underlying feeling he wanted to destroy me for merely contradicting him.
Farmer-Rick
(10,140 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:12 PM - Edit history (1)
I would argue with him constantly. He hated me and rarely included us in invitations to all of the other family members. He was rich, so missing out on these invitations was a drawback. The invites were to exotic places in fancy bungalows.
I was an obnoxious kid. I never let a chance to argue slip by. I thought my parents hated it. But in a late night conversation, my parents explained how they thought I was brave.
You never know when not letting a stupid idea slip by without argument may actually be the most courageous thing you can do.
no_hypocrisy
(46,038 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)certainly level of weakness and vulnerability from the start to remain in any kind of relationship with him?. Because many people are around people like and they don't get eaten.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Fuck him and his role in the stolen election. He went out of his way to sink Hillary. Whatever hateful reason he had, I hope it torments him til the end of time. I havent been able to sleep since this nightmare started. Neither should he.
It doesnt matter how many things he got right about Trump. He did the one thing he can never be forgiven for.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Did he ever reasonably explain what it meant besides another projection: accusing the well=regarded Clinton Foundation of exactly what the "Trump Foundation" had been caught doing? Oh, and dredging up old, disproven stuff.
The Polack MSgt
(13,182 posts)For the end around he pulled - against his bosses direction and possibly in violation of federal law - To torpedo the Clinton campaign with his FAKE "Reopening" of the "Investigation"
He can die choking on a 20 pound sack of rat's assholes
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)MartyTheGreek
(565 posts)Let the FOX Boycott expand! State run propaganda! They are supporting a fraud, an illegitimate POTUS!
FOX is foreign owned for christ sake! Do something! Pull the FCC licence! We're 2.5 years in this Information and Cyber War and FOX is acting like Bagdad Bob!
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Wednesdays
(17,321 posts)It's behind a pay wall.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)This logical theory plays only a *minor* roll:
Parents who "overvalue" children during this developmental stage, telling them they are superior to others and entitled to special treatment, are more likely to produce narcissistic children -- who can grow up to become narcissistic adults, unless something is done about it."
The heart of the problem is emotional neglect and unrealistic expectations, imo. In that mode, the article does make the important point about the greatest counter to NPD:
"But when children are treated by their parents with affection and appreciation, they may internalize the view that they are valuable individuals, a view that is at the core of self-esteem."
Narcissists spend their lives expecting others to prop up their failing self-imagine.
Wednesdays
(17,321 posts)gordianot
(15,234 posts)Comeys very high opinion of himself probably saved him from a life of toadyism. In the meantime Trump has found his toadies. The one I wonder about is Pence who remains strangely silent.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)And it's clear those alarms started ringing while he was in the room with Mr. Trump.
gordianot
(15,234 posts)Comeys curse includes regrets. The Don tried to roll him and did get the job done.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)No new soul-searching on his part is going to change my mind about that.
Violated the Hatch Act. Knew he was violating the Hatch Act. Knew that whatever he said to congress would be leaked by republicans, then proceeded to hurt Hillary Clinton 10 days before the general election anyway.
Cuck Fomey!
llmart
(15,534 posts)and Comey chose to remain silent and even go along with trump's requests. He needs to take full responsibility for his own choices.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,612 posts)He screwed up the Clinton investigation, but acted appropriately wrt Trump.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Ligyron
(7,616 posts)He has to be at least half the reason this nightmare has come to pass and the damage to our country, and to a woman who really only wanted to serve our, (and even "their" best interests is incalculable.
Now, if he can or could somehow provide bulletproof evidence that would lead to Trump being convicted of the serious crimes he has, (and continues) to commit, I might reconsider somewhat. But I believe if such evidence were available he'd have provided it already.
Still, I'll take good information from whatever source as long as it is reliable and I believe in this case it is.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,612 posts)in his evaluation of how Trump operates. And Trump has managed to eat a lot of souls because people want to be part of the power structure of the presidency, and they'll put up with a lot and do a lot in order to keep their positions in that structure.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)A decent guy who was over his head in the job. I tend to agree. I remember his testimony before Congress about stopping Bush from forcing a critically ill Ashcroft from signing something illegal. I think what he says in the OP is an astute analysis.
Blue Owl
(50,288 posts)The Goldenrod Grinch
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)because of Christmas). :p