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Drumpf's alleged threat to the whistle blower makes me wonder if Jeffrey (Original Post) mfcorey1 Sep 2019 OP
In the gangster repertoire empedocles Sep 2019 #1
I thought that myself a short while ago. secondwind Sep 2019 #2
And the video not working. All hidden in plain sight. lostnfound Sep 2019 #7
2 video cameras malfunctioned, both guards "fell asleep," and his injuries were more inline ... Botany Sep 2019 #12
I thought that myself before it happened Perseus Sep 2019 #11
Or... 2naSalit Sep 2019 #14
Yup. MontanaMama Sep 2019 #21
Indeed, and other famous hits 2naSalit Sep 2019 #22
Dead men don't talk. Meadowoak Sep 2019 #3
If a conspiracy theory gets you through the day... brooklynite Sep 2019 #4
Plenty of circumstantial evidence he was exboyfil Sep 2019 #6
When does Putin turn on him? SallyHemmings Sep 2019 #8
tRump still doing Putin's bidding. Soon he will be useless to Putin, who will increase chaos by Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #10
There is some evidence that indicates suicide was not how he died Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #13
It's becoming quite the theme around here. nt UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #17
I know there is so much going on... but that story just vanished Takket Sep 2019 #5
also the story bdamomma Sep 2019 #18
Yes. And what about him telling people to get that wall Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #19
Many unanswered questions TheRickles Sep 2019 #9
Connecting the dots !! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #15
How many others SayItLoud Sep 2019 #16
Suicides TheRickles Sep 2019 #20

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. I thought that myself a short while ago.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:02 AM
Sep 2019

AG Barr visiting the Metropolitan Correctional Building a mere two weeks before the “suicide”

Botany

(70,501 posts)
12. 2 video cameras malfunctioned, both guards "fell asleep," and his injuries were more inline ...
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:29 AM
Sep 2019

... with being strangled then from hanging himself from a bunk bed. And all that happened after
it turned out that D. Trump was on Epstein's planes years after he said that he cut off all communications
between them and then it turns out that Epstein was using Trump's plane to move young girls
around.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. I thought that myself before it happened
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:20 AM
Sep 2019

The writing was on the wall. It is very strange as well that we have not heard anything about the "ongoing" investigations.

I think it is safe to say that Epstein did not commit suicide, too many coincidences and:

“Be certain there are no coincidences”
― Maureen Joyce Connolly, Little Lovely Things

MontanaMama

(23,308 posts)
21. Yup.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:41 AM
Sep 2019

You beat me to it. Looks like they’re getting away with it too. I wouldn’t doubt that there is a slimy conversation between the MF and MBS about the fate of Jamal Khashoggi on that private WH server.

brooklynite

(94,507 posts)
4. If a conspiracy theory gets you through the day...
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:14 AM
Sep 2019

No evidence that Epstein was other than a suicide, and none of Trump's direct opponents have been "rubbed out".

One thing about Putin: he doesn't publicly talk about killing people...

SallyHemmings

(1,821 posts)
8. When does Putin turn on him?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:32 AM
Sep 2019

Simply pile on by releasing "his tapes" for no other reason than to further muddy the waters.


Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
10. tRump still doing Putin's bidding. Soon he will be useless to Putin, who will increase chaos by
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:19 AM
Sep 2019

... by releasing the P tapes, financial information and other info along with ramping up the divisiveness of social media.

We see a lot of talk about bots talking election issues, but is anyone tracking bots that jack up white supremacists, militia, and generalized RW thuggery? I'll bet that there is currently or soon will be an increase in activity in those areas.

Farmer-Rick

(10,160 posts)
13. There is some evidence that indicates suicide was not how he died
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:42 AM
Sep 2019

It may not be evidence you are willing to accept, but it is evidence. And that evidence is what is causing all the conspiracy theories. That evidence, And the lack of any thorough follow on investigation are creating conspiracy scenarios.

And the evidence that Epstein committed suicide is very poor and insufficient. The government has not proven Epstein committed suicide. They have failed to answer many questions about the death.

But to some extent I agree with you. If you believe it is Murder that killed Epstein, provide your evidence. Otherwise all we can really say is we don't know what happened.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. Yes. And what about him telling people to get that wall
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:52 AM
Sep 2019

built and if you have to break the law I will pardon you.

Guess he hasn't started grabbing land yet. Doubt he will do that in Texas since his approval 39% and people don't take kindly to those who take a person's land. (and guns).

TheRickles

(2,058 posts)
9. Many unanswered questions
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:12 AM
Sep 2019

Why no videos from inside cell or from corridors, sleepy guards, no photos of cell layout (ie, nothing on walls from which to hang sheet), sheets made from break-away cloth, photo of body on gurney didn't even look like Epstein, autopsy conducted by 85 y/o pathologist who also did JFK's(!), etc.

It's all about as believable as Mohammed Atta's intact passport being found in the rubble of 9/11. Many interpretations of these facts are possible, and I"m not sure which is correct, but the official narratives are highly dubious.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
16. How many others
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:48 AM
Sep 2019

committed suicide in the the NYC jail facility where Epstein (supposedly) committed suicide?

Let's ask Bill Barr who's DOJ is investigating....Oh wait, Barr's father once hired Epstein. I guess he's recused himself. NOT.

IMO humble opinion what Epstein would have revealed is the only thing that would turn a major part of the tRUMP cult base against tRUMP.

TheRickles

(2,058 posts)
20. Suicides
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:36 AM
Sep 2019

I have read that no suicides were committed there in the past 40 years (can't remember source - sorry). Also of interest - Epstein made a new will two days before his death.

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