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Now on MSNBC: Rudi met with former Ukranian prosecutor at least 10 TIMES (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2019 OP
Well....10 times...NEW NEWS!!!! Thank YOu for posting...K and R Stuart G Sep 2019 #1
He's been a busy little rat! Will he turn on his boss to save his own hide? Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #2
lol CatWoman Sep 2019 #3
Of course he will! Even if he doesn't intend to. Dem2theMax Sep 2019 #35
So who is paying Guiliani to do this? mgardener Sep 2019 #37
He's supposedly working for free kskiska Sep 2019 #41
ah NJCher Sep 2019 #48
So he is likely getting payments to Cayman banks. alittlelark Sep 2019 #56
The same person or people not fooled Sep 2019 #45
Yea really who is paying. And can't be to hard to find the dirt on Rudy. Anyone looking? Pepsidog Sep 2019 #50
He told his snowybirdie Sep 2019 #52
Turd, Ghoul, Barr, Pence, Pompeio are already turning on each other. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #39
Setting up Rudy G for one of the people to fall . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #4
never thought of that rurallib Sep 2019 #10
"So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?" "Of course I did." dalton99a Sep 2019 #5
So Rudy takes his date to her home PCIntern Sep 2019 #6
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #7
... bdamomma Sep 2019 #23
😆 underpants Sep 2019 #51
Oh, Rudy knows he's in trouble, hence the State Department made me do it defense. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #8
What's funny was BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #9
We knew Rudy made a lot of trips, it's been reported all summer long FakeNoose Sep 2019 #11
WHICH ONE? maxsolomon Sep 2019 #12
Lutsenko CatWoman Sep 2019 #13
Fuck! 10 times? That's like...dating. VOX Sep 2019 #14
'like . . . dating'. Good one. empedocles Sep 2019 #26
Well, don't forget Guiliani married his cousin and smacked a wet one on trump! George II Sep 2019 #34
And 45 nuzzled Rudi's ample bosom. VOX Sep 2019 #38
To be fair -seen on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell solara Sep 2019 #15
My bad CatWoman Sep 2019 #24
I agree wth you solara Sep 2019 #33
did Lutshenko vomit up conspiracy crap? maxsolomon Sep 2019 #25
No he was very cautious and could barely speak English solara Sep 2019 #31
interesting, because he is the one acccusing amb. yovanovitch of providing a "do not prosecute" list maxsolomon Sep 2019 #44
Hmmm I didn't hear any of that in the convo I saw solara Sep 2019 #54
Interesting side note: Rudy's getting divorced & his wife wants financial info. Jan 2020 trial date. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2019 #16
REC ffr Sep 2019 #19
So Rudy is living on a Trump Company expense account? Captain Zero Sep 2019 #20
Great question - I posted this as a new thread in general discussion. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2019 #22
I'd pay him pro bono for his boners. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #42
Her lawyers should check out his Russian or Ukranian bank accounts as well. n/t woodsprite Sep 2019 #47
This scandal is moving faster than I can keep up with. ffr Sep 2019 #17
You don't need to meet that often to ask for an investigation TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #18
Lutsenko was already manufacturing dirt on the Bidens maxsolomon Sep 2019 #27
He met at least ten times to make up dirt. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2019 #21
Holy crap. Man, they are TERRIFIED of Biden. WHO PAID FOR THIS?? Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #28
Here's a clue. Payment was in Roubles. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #43
so rudy and the prosecutor are among those who can blackmail potus...for wiggs Sep 2019 #29
And I am sure he did that w/out Trump's knowledge too. Botany Sep 2019 #30
They are manufacturing a Biden scandal Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #32
At this point, Rudy is ripe for THE DEAL? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #36
What's the definition of insanity again? dchill Sep 2019 #40
make up dirt juxtaposed Sep 2019 #46
Republicans have lowered the samplegirl Sep 2019 #49
How was this paid for? Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #53
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Who was paying for those trips?! nt ecstatic Sep 2019 #57

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
35. Of course he will! Even if he doesn't intend to.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:02 PM
Sep 2019

Just like his boss, Rudy can't keep his mouth shut. You know the truth will come out. It may take a few minutes, but all you have to do is poke the bear a few times, and off he goes.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
37. So who is paying Guiliani to do this?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

Are others as curious about this as I am?
Is Trump paying him, airfare and hotels?
Is the RNC?
Or are we the taxpayers paying him??? Has he been hired by the government?
Does Guiliani have security clearance?
Anybody know?

I have not heard anything about this.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
41. He's supposedly working for free
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:15 PM
Sep 2019

He's in the middle of an acrimonious divorce and wants to keep his income level low to avoid paying exorbitant alimony to his wife.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
45. The same person or people
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

who paid SC Justice Boof's credit card bill/gambling debts?

Pennies compared to the loot they made off with via the 2017 tax scam.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
52. He told his
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:36 PM
Sep 2019

Wife's attorney he's working pro bono. No income! Ha, bet the scorned wife will get to the bottom of this. Another break in the dike..

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Setting up Rudy G for one of the people to fall . . .
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:50 PM
Sep 2019

Criminal Barr tactic . . .

Time to spill the beans - Rudy!

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
10. never thought of that
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:59 PM
Sep 2019

that strikes me as hilarious.
Rudy gets hosed trying to hose the country.

Isn't it ironic?

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
6. So Rudy takes his date to her home
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:52 PM
Sep 2019

And he leans over and asks her, “ Hey baby, how about a “goodnight fuck”?

She replies, “OK...Goodnight, Fuck.”

It’s “Goodnight Fuck” for him

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
8. Oh, Rudy knows he's in trouble, hence the State Department made me do it defense.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:57 PM
Sep 2019

Hope pompous, self-satisfied, Trump toady Pompeo gets nailed. Fun to see them try to throw each other under.

BumRushDaShow

(128,916 posts)
9. What's funny was
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:59 PM
Sep 2019

that every time his name was mentioned on DU when he hadn't made an appearance for awhile, he suddenly appeared a day or two later to vomit forth some nonsense.... but then would suddenly disappear again for extended periods of time.

NOW we KNOW where he was disappearing to!

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
11. We knew Rudy made a lot of trips, it's been reported all summer long
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

The thing we never knew is that his trips were all part of the shakedown. Pootie told Chump that no US aid should go to Ukraine, period.

Rudy and Chump cooked up the Biden angle, I guess. But even if they had gotten something from Zelensky, Chump still had no plans to release the funds to them.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
12. WHICH ONE?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:03 PM
Sep 2019

Lutsenko or Shonkin?

I fell like I've been asleep while the RWNJ have been working this Conspiracy for over a year.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. Fuck! 10 times? That's like...dating.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:49 PM - Edit history (1)

I never trusted that bastard Giuliani even back in his “America’s Mayor” days. He and his convicted felon buddy, Bernard Kerik.

Wasn’t it Joe Biden who said of Giuliani, "There's only three things he mentions in a sentence: a noun, a verb and 9/11."

solara

(3,836 posts)
15. To be fair -seen on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

I just watched the interview with Richard Engel and Yuriy Lutsenko, the ex-Ukraine prosecutor, who said he met with Rudi twice but spoke to him on the phone about 10 times.

(edited to add names)

solara

(3,836 posts)
33. I agree wth you
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:54 PM
Sep 2019

Initially I was disappointed when he said they only met twice, but I think the 10 phone calls are just as important if not more important and he seemed a tad nervous about them.. but, again to be fair, he seemed nervous in general. It could have been because he did not speak English well.. who knows. but I bet there are copies of those ten phone conversations with Giuliani.

solara

(3,836 posts)
31. No he was very cautious and could barely speak English
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:51 PM
Sep 2019

It was clear he understood English much better than he spoke it. But he didn't go into any detail other than to say that the actual investigation happened a few years before Hunter was hired.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
44. interesting, because he is the one acccusing amb. yovanovitch of providing a "do not prosecute" list
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:20 PM
Sep 2019

and something about George Soros.

i'm not 100% up on this bullshit yet.

solara

(3,836 posts)
54. Hmmm I didn't hear any of that in the convo I saw
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:08 PM
Sep 2019

Apparently I am not even 50% up on this bullshit yet..

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,243 posts)
16. Interesting side note: Rudy's getting divorced & his wife wants financial info. Jan 2020 trial date.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:18 PM
Sep 2019

"Mrs. Giuliani says she had no choice but to take him to court, to prove what he is actually worth financially and to get what she believes she is fairly entitled to."

This is from an 9/13/19 article in the NYT.

“It is beyond me why either party in this case would have an interest in having all of this done publicly,” Justice Michael Katz said at an appearance last year in State Supreme Court in Manhattan. Settling privately, he advised, “would treat their relationship and marriage with more respect than divulging all our dirty laundry out for public consumption.”

The article goes on to say:

A primary issue is Mr. Giuliani’s current income. His wife believes that Mr. Giuliani left his law firm, Greenberg Traurig, in 2018, a month after the divorce was filed, and chose to work for President Trump pro bono in order to reduce any future alimony.

Mr. Giuliani earned $7.9 million in 2016 and $9.5 million in 2017, funding the couple’s roughly $230,000 a month lifestyle, according to Mrs. Giuliani’s lawyers. In 2018, the year he began working for the president, Mr. Giuliani’s earnings dipped to $6.8 million, and he has suggested that this year’s income will be well below that.

I didn't want to cite too much of the article. Here is the link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/13/nyregion/rudy-giuliani-divorce-judith-nathan.html



Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
20. So Rudy is living on a Trump Company expense account?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:29 PM
Sep 2019

We need to see how his lodging bills in the Ukraine are getting paid?

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,243 posts)
22. Great question - I posted this as a new thread in general discussion.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:34 PM
Sep 2019

I hope your question is added to it there.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
18. You don't need to meet that often to ask for an investigation
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

Plus, you don't send your consigliere to do that. If you have legitimate concerns, you send professionals from the state and/or justice department.

What do think the odds are that he was twisting Lutsenko's arm to manufacture dirt on the Bidens.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
27. Lutsenko was already manufacturing dirt on the Bidens
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:43 PM
Sep 2019

for his own reasons. He's a malefactor here - he's ground zero of the conspiracy.

And manufacturing dirt on Masha Yovanovitch, the "disloyal" Ambassador that Trump just recalled. Her name is going to get big soon.

Is Rudy the consigliere? Trump seems to think that's Barr now.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
29. so rudy and the prosecutor are among those who can blackmail potus...for
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:48 PM
Sep 2019

money, pardons, whatever they want.

When you hire criminals to help with criminal activity...everyone owns everyone else

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
32. They are manufacturing a Biden scandal
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:54 PM
Sep 2019

This is not about uncovering anything. It’s about manufacturing something against the Biden’s.

This will get scary as they will produce fake documents and witnesses.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
36. At this point, Rudy is ripe for THE DEAL?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:03 PM
Sep 2019

Ofc I mean THE DEAL that then brings down this ridiculous cluster immediately?

Let this guy be the SINGER!

I accept it.



Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
53. How was this paid for?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:30 PM
Sep 2019

If Rudy paid his own way, would that be considered a campaign contribution? If he want as Trump's attorney and was reimbursed (that would be a miracle since Trump never reimburses), it was support the claim that Trump was trying to get dirt on a political opponent. If Rudy was reimbursed by government money, it's the most troubling of all, because then they are using tax money to get dirt on a political opponent.

I don't think Rudy could afford several trips over. So someone is paying.

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