Why didn't we see Ukraine plotting in plain sight?

[struggle4progress]

by Eric Umansky
Sept. 27, 11:09 a.m. EDT

... The president urged an investigation into Ukraine and Democrats back in 2017. He didn’t do it in a secret meeting. He tweeted ...

Trump .. this April .. floated getting the Attorney General involved ...

BuzzFeed and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project followed up in July with an even more detailed story on how Giuliani was pushing Ukraine “to discredit the president’s rivals.”

Giuliani was straightforward. “We’re not meddling in an election, we’re meddling in an investigation,” he told the Times. Giuliani added that, of course, Trump knew about it. “My only client is the president of the United States,” he said. “He’s the one I have an obligation to report to, tell him what happened” ...

https://www.propublica.org/article/trumps-ukraine-plotting-has-been-happening-in-plain-sight-so-why-didnt-we-see-it

[marble falls]

1. I think Speaker Pelosi knew about it and was waiting for him to take the hook ...

I believe the Speaker picked her battleground and he just junebugged into the windshield. He's not going to stonewall and bluster his way out of this.

[lame54]

2. I think their strategy is to...

Crazy their way through at full speed

[intrepidity]

3. She was waiting for a whistleblower? nt

[marble falls]

4. No she was waiting for him to involve himself on a personal level in talking ...

with other nations, something that would have to pop up in national security and intelligence "sights" at some point. The specific agency wasn't known up front, but the inevitable reports were going to get to her one way or another. She chaired national security and intelligence committees in her career. She has connections.

[FakeNoose]

5. Pootie told Chump to never give Ukraine any US aid at all

That's why Chump withheld the money from Ukraine, because Pootie wants Ukraine to be as weak defenseless as possible. That's been his plan since before the 2016 election. Remember when Manafort took it out of the Republican platform - he deleted the the pledge to help Ukraine with money and defensive arms? The thing is that Obama had already earmarked aid for Ukraine, and Chump never released it.

Rudy and Chump figured they could get the Ukraine president to dig up some dirt on Biden. But even if they got something, Chump was never going to release the aid to Ukraine because Pootie said no. If the transcripts of his calls with Putin ever get released, I'm sure it will be in there.

[regnaD kciN]

6. I'm not one of those...

...who’s convinced that Pelosi is a political genius in the way she handled this (rather, she strikes me as someone who didn’t want to move on impeachment until stampeded by her own caucus), but, after hearing that the Kremlin is worried about its transcripts being released as well…wouldn’t it be ironic if this investigation led to all the documents on the secret server being released, including calls from Putin saying “Remember, Donald, we kept up our end of the bargain by rigging the election for you – now, it’s time for you to hold up your end of the bargain”…?

[FakeNoose]

7. That would be awesome

... but after all, don't forget it was part of the original quid pro quo. Remember when Manafort had the plank changed on the GOP platform in 2016? He insisted that they remove the provision for military aid and $ to Ukraine. Manafort was getting instrux straight from Pootie then.