Vladimir Putin is saying, don't release these conversations or...I will first.

[kpete]

Vladimir Putin May Have Just Sent a Signal About Trump's Secret Server
This is just getting started.

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BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
SEP 27, 2019

Whatever is on the Secret Server must be one doozy of a national security threat. Through his spokesman, Vladimir Putin is saying, don't release these conversations or...I will first. And, if that happens, more than simply this president* may go down.

.................

It is possible that Russian influence-peddling has infected both the entire Republican Party and many of the more prominent conservative interest groups allied with it. (Money in politics is now a matter of national security.) As somebody, and I don't remember who now, said on television this morning, without Ukraine, Russia is just Russia. With Ukraine, Russia is the Soviet Union. If the President* of the United States is involved in any way in that, the roof caves in.

There's no telling what information is contained in the Secret Server and elsewhere in a White House that has been reconfigured to resemble a conspiracy to obstruct justice. This, I promise you, is just getting started.


Much more:
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29268263/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-communications-secret-server-ukraine/?src=socialflowTW&utm_campaign=socialflowTWESQ&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social-media

[Newest Reality]

1. Well,

I am certainly not getting tired of WINNING!

[Zoonart]

2. Soooo... Putin just made t he case for impeachment.

In other words... Trump is himself compromised and he has compromised our national security.

[Lulu KC]

26. And we can sit and marvel that the rest of the country is surprised

It is really going to take self-discipline not to wear a t-shirt that says, "I told you so."
I will work to stay on the high road.

And on a more serious note, I hope that DT doesn't send a bunch of troops off to be killed in the meantime, thinking it will distract us. It won't.
Time is of the essence.

[vlyons]

3. Well obviously, now that Putin has threatened the GOPers,

the tape MUST be released. It's as if a bank robber told the FBI, don't go looking in my backyard for hidey-holes. Devin Nunes (and others) must be sweating bullets

[lark]

43. Is he threatening repugs or us?

Will he put out true repug treachery or phonied up BS about Dems? They altered the materials stolen from Clinton so we know he does that.

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. I really hope we don't find out...

That someone in Russia has codes, and is able to access the secret server.

This thing stinks.

[CITIZEN CONCERNED]

9. THOR

That would be really ugly...………….very scary...the scary part would be "how did it get there"

[uponit7771]

17. Oh that's already a done deal, you can bet they have codes and keys and have

... planted as many spies in our defense systems as they can get.

[Phoenix61]

23. The server is not connected to the internet.

It’s a stand alone machine so it can’t be hacked.

[Garrett78]

33. Yep. Fortunately, Congress is entitled to classified information. So, Schiff and company can...

...demand to get their hands on that server. Whether they will get it or not is another question. They've been pretty well stonewalled up to this point, so I struggle to be hopeful.

[shanti]

36. That is what worries me

Putin knowing all of our deep secrets via Chump. He was a spy himself. He knows what to look for, and how to do it.

[uppityperson]

5. Well, alrighty then

Release them

[kentuck]

6. WTF ! Wow!

Does that mean we can only guess what is in the secret server?

Go ahead and release it Pootie. We dare you.

[dem4decades]

7. Putin will release an unedited tape i'm sure. US must release the real one.

If there is one.

[C_U_L8R]

8. When the President is a crook...

Practically anyone can blackmail him

[shanti]

37. Something the Trumpers

never even considered when he was "vetted".

[LisaL]

10. I hope he does. Looking forward to it.

[Buckeyeblue]

11. What does Putin really want?

It seems like he wants 3 things really:

1. Sanctions lifted
2. The price of oil to be above $75 a barrel
3. Ukraine

Russia has a lot to gain by destabilizing our government. A mass scandal involving our top people might just provide the window of opportunity they need.

Putin is 66. And he is Russian (they don't tend to live to be old). You figure at some point he puts the plan in motion.

1. Release a massive amount of dirt on US politicans (there might be some Democrats involved as well)
2. Start a war in the middle east
3. Invade Ukraine

It could be a real shit show.

[LisaL]

13. Russian men on average don't tend to live to be old because of unhealthy lifestyle.

Drinking, smoking, etc. Putin obviously lives a healthy lifestyle (as far as I can tell he neither drinks nor smokes), and has access to best medical care, and he is not overweight and fit, so I wouldn't count of him dying anytime soon.

[Buckeyeblue]

14. I think genetics play a big factor in longevity

Not smoking helps. Staying active helps. But getting into your late 70's/early 80's with any semblance of good health is more of a genetic luck of the draw than anything else.

I'm sure someone as calculating as Putin knows exactly where he stands.

[LisaL]

15. Per wikipedia, Putin's father lived to be 88 and his mother lived to be 87.

So, again, don't count on Putin's dying any time soon. So if Putin knows exactly where he stands, just based on his parents alone, he might expect to live at least another 20 years. And potentially much longer, because medical care has improved, and is able to prolong life better than in the past.

[Buckeyeblue]

16. I didn't mean to imply that I thought he has one foot in the grave

But if I were a cold, calculating dictator who had a plan to become even richer, I might want to strike while the iron was hot. But also while I could still enjoy my handy work.

But I also think the Russian people are getting restless.

But I'm just speculating.

[LisaL]

18. We have an overweight fast food loving 73 year old in the White House.

Putin is a young man compared to him. Putin got the good genes and good health habits. I don't envision he is thinking he is going to croak any time soon.

[Lulu KC]

27. And he has a whole bunch of other ruthless oligarchs behind him

who can continue the process.

[Frustratedlady]

35. My first concern with his comment was questioning if any Democrats would be involved?

But, then...I thought about all the Republican congresscritters who visited Russia on July 4th, 2018 (am I right), and never really gave a reason for doing so instead of celebrating the U.S. holiday at home.

Me thinks we are about to get a real lesson in international relations.

[duforsure]

12. Trumps in trouble with Putin now

And Putin realizes his own corrupt world will be crumbling down too.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. +1

Lots of dirty laundry that he want to keep in the bin. And I suspect some are blood stained.

[Baitball Blogger]

19. So, who do we know on our side that is good at bluffing?

[Takket]

21. what happens to people in the mob when they go from asset to liability of the boss?

asking for an orange friend

[MineralMan]

22. Yes. Only the beginning has been exposed.

There is much, much more that could be revealed. That fact may be the thing that leads Trump to depart his office prematurely.

[Mr. Ected]

24. Remember - everyone expected Putin to be a thug

Historically, though, our government worked feverishly to protect us from the thuggery.

It looks like Trump's regime is trying to outdo Putin's in actually ALIGNING with the enemy to undermine its own constituents.

It's in Putin's best interest to keep the proof of the collusion under wraps, though if discovered, it wouldn't exactly be a surprise.

The surprise is that we let the fox in the hen house through the front door. What a damning moment in American history.

[Lulu KC]

25. Delicious and loomingly scary at the same time

Hurry! Release them! (covering eyes) No, don't! Yes, do!

[Wounded Bear]

28. Russian history goes deeper than the USSR...

So I don't consider the Soviet Union reference as accurate.

IMO, the true reference is that with Ukraine, Russia moves from being the Russian Republic to becoming the re-birth of the Russian Empire.

Putin doesn't want to be a commissar, he wants to be a Tsar.

[bdamomma]

45. Putin

is addicted to POWER and $$$$$$$$$.

[Doodley]

29. If you do something, I will do it first. That defies logic. You can't do something first

if somebody else has already done it.

[LisaL]

38. Well, Putin didn't actually say anything of the sort.

The write of the article is interpreting something Putin's spokesperson said that way. But spokesperson didn't say anything of the sort either.

[stonecutter357]

30. don't release these conversations or...I will first ? How is he going to do that ?

[LisaL]

42. Again, Putin hasn't said that.

The author is somehow interpreting that from what spokesperson has said, but spokesperson hasn't said that either. But I suppose the idea would be similar to something like this-if someone is threatening to release your naked photos you release them first so they don't have a hold over you.

[stonecutter357]

44. you seem very concerned !

[lavenderdiva]

31. I must be daft because I still don't understand

I apologize profusely, but as much as I want to understand this (and want Trump out and the Repubs shown as the criminals they are), I still don't:

--Why would they want Trump or others to release the tapes of those conversations first? that would also compromise the man they put in office?

--Surely those tapes hold compromising information that would make Russia look bad and uncover criminal activities they participated in? why would they want those made public?

Would someone please simplify this for my brain this morning? Obviously, I need more coffee.... Thank you in advance!

[world wide wally]

32. His statement doesn't make any sense:

"Don't release these conversations or ...I will first" (?)
Was something left out?

[LisaL]

41. He didn't make any such statement if you read the actual article. It seems to be interpretation of

the author, but I don't know how the author arrived to that idea.

[defacto7]

34. Putin may or may not have anything,

but his threat could be a maneuver to protect the contents. It threatens both sides at the same time which could cause hesitancy by the Dems or maybe pressure by past presidents.

I say it's just an empty hand myself. Poker anyone?

[LisaL]

39. I personally have no doubt whatsoever Putin has lots. Lots and lots to release.

[mfcorey1]

40. Wow!