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Rick Wilson:"Repubs are so nervous right now that if they (Original Post) spooky3 Sep 2019 OP
lol! EricaGriswoldAuthor Sep 2019 #1
I Listened To His Comments On Joy's Show And I Reacted To His Saying..... global1 Sep 2019 #2
dealing with trump is not what GOP fears, never has been, its the HUGE and significant portion of beachbumbob Sep 2019 #5
Trump's hardcore supporters will never vote for a Democrat, so there's very little to fear. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #6
No, that's not how it works. A huge part of tRump's base vote R only as a way to power. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #10
deplorables will find even more deplorable Repukes for primaries Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #23
Not saying true trump supporters would vote for democrats, I am beachbumbob Sep 2019 #13
Yep. It's the splintering of their electorate that worries them. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #18
Shouldn't they also fear the wraith of those same folks when they get a clue? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #24
I believe there is also the fear of kompromat - the USSR version. Altho many US compromises have erronis Sep 2019 #7
I keep picturing... SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2019 #17
I've said it 1000+ times and will repeat it once again... Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #25
That guy Disaffected Sep 2019 #3
I really don't know why unless they personally marlakay Sep 2019 #4
Yeah, and then nikki haley can waltz in not fooled Sep 2019 #21
Trump did their bidding. They benefitted from his playing the clown, the extremist, the chief emmaverybo Sep 2019 #27
The trending thought seems to be that Repukes are afraid of being primaried if they oppose dipshit.. world wide wally Sep 2019 #8
Since many GOP politicians are all pretty much rightwing, the beachbumbob Sep 2019 #14
Blood diamond lame54 Sep 2019 #9
a quote from Ferris Beuller's Day Off eShirl Sep 2019 #11
Or as my grandpa once said... mbusby Sep 2019 #12
ITA mfcorey1 Sep 2019 #15
The way I learned it was oswaldactedalone Sep 2019 #16
The video of him on AM Joy saying that. ffr Sep 2019 #19
Priceless! calimary Sep 2019 #29
Now thats funny. pwb Sep 2019 #20
Lol ArnoldLayne Sep 2019 #22
My best friend's John Fante Sep 2019 #26
O. M. G. !!! !!! !!! calimary Sep 2019 #28

global1

(25,226 posts)
2. I Listened To His Comments On Joy's Show And I Reacted To His Saying.....
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:14 AM
Sep 2019

that the Repugs are scared of Trump and his mob tactics (paraphrasing here).

I keep asking what are they afraid of? Really what can Trump do to them? I know he says that he can tweet something bad about them and they would lose support from their voters and maybe lose their job. Essentially Trump could maybe primary them out of a job.

BUT

I've always said 'there's power in numbers'. If enough of them ban together and turn on Trump - he can't possibly deal with a large amount of Repugs turning on him. Particularly with his work ethic or lack thereof.

This is how they should deal with him - and I still think that as this impeachment inquiry develops and as the facts come out just how corrupt Trump is - that they will have no choice but to turn on Trump. We hear that behind the scenes that many of the Repugs in the Senate hate Trump. They bad-mouth him behind his back. We've heard that 28 t0 35 would vote against him if there was a secret ballot.

So why don't these people get together and come out against Trump in force. Again - there is power in numbers and there is no way that Trump can primary all of them at the same time.

I just don't get it - unless Trump has a secret army of goons and has made death threats on all of them.

The only thing I've also said is that Trump will not go down alone. He'll take the Party down with him. Either his spill the beans about all the skeletons in the closet of the Repug Party (i.e., all their secrets of vote suppression, stealing of votes and election interference, etc) or he'll lie and make things up about them.

The sooner they (the Repugs) get together and take Trump out the less chance he has to blame them or take them out. They need to act fast and soon.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. dealing with trump is not what GOP fears, never has been, its the HUGE and significant portion of
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:21 AM
Sep 2019

GOP voting base the true trump supporter. The compromise greater than 50% of republican voters. The fear is clear, the fear is real. IF ANY GOP assistance happens in removing trump from office or EVEN HAVING A TRIAL

the risk of alienating the majority of republican voters is all but assured. What is the outcome?

the destruction of the GOP power across america. These voters would more than likely not go out and vote as their sign of disgust. That impact would lead to the greast change of political power in America that has ever happened. At every level, state, local and federal.

More than likely these same people would splinter off to a 3rd party, and permanently be out of power at federal level, may have some at state and local levels.

Why does GOP fear? Aint trump, its his supporters

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
6. Trump's hardcore supporters will never vote for a Democrat, so there's very little to fear.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:56 AM
Sep 2019

Yes, some supporters may stay home, but Trump’s base would not vote for a Democrat for any reason. Trump might try to primary some Republicans, but he can’t primary them all and most of them have the advantage of incumbency. I think it really is Trump they’re afraid of because the Russians also hacked the RNC but never released anything—though most likely all was released to Trump who may have kompromat on any number of Republicans.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
10. No, that's not how it works. A huge part of tRump's base vote R only as a way to power.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:07 PM
Sep 2019

There is constant talk on RW sites about RINOs and GOPelite and the "UniParty" (D & R parties cooperating).

If a Republicon dares to vote against tRump court nominees or against tRump himself, they will face Primaries. But the base are even more likely to sit at home on election day or not vote at all for that Republicon's office.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
13. Not saying true trump supporters would vote for democrats, I am
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:31 PM
Sep 2019

saying the anger in true trump supporters will make themleave the Gop behind in whatever form as reprisal. Human nature is predictable.

A splinter GOP voting base is all but assured IF GOP removes trump from office.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. Yep. It's the splintering of their electorate that worries them.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019

Alienating Cult 45 carries great risk.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
24. Shouldn't they also fear the wraith of those same folks when they get a clue?
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:55 PM
Sep 2019


Consequences, they act like there are none?

Subsets of these folks shoot people over abortions, which is so insanely ironic?




erronis

(15,185 posts)
7. I believe there is also the fear of kompromat - the USSR version. Altho many US compromises have
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:01 PM
Sep 2019

been made and debts will be called; roosters coming home to roost.

The KGB/FSB/poutine thugs can make some bad things happen to ex-friends.

Love to see those gop congress-rats that visited Moscow and have back-doored communications to poutine and dump worry about their own safety. Polonium is deadly and very slow-acting. Ugly stuff.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
25. I've said it 1000+ times and will repeat it once again...
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 10:21 PM
Sep 2019

the President of the United States has access to EVERY skeleton in the closet. And cheney made damn sure that there are TONS and TONS of skeletons.
In other words, the fuckers are SCARED SHITLESS that the orange maniac will expose them if they turn on him.

marlakay

(11,432 posts)
4. I really don't know why unless they personally
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:17 AM
Sep 2019

Were involved. They got everything they wanted from him already with tax cuts, judges, abortion laws changed, lots of regulations gone, wall being built.

Now they can get rid of Mr. embarrassment and choose someone new.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
21. Yeah, and then nikki haley can waltz in
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

throw up her hands and pretend that she NEVER would have looted the treasury, appointed a bunch of far right crackpot judges, trashed the environment, etc. but now that it's done, she'll say you just gotta live with it.

So, the establishment pukes let red don do the dirty work that they wanted but that is wildly unpopular outside the RWNJ base. Once much of it is a fait accompli, he is expendable and a duplicitous type like haley can enter the scene and portray herself as a moderate.

As Charlie Pierce has pointed out, any of the GOPee candidates who might have gotten into the presidency in 2016 would have done the exact same things policywise as red don.




emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. Trump did their bidding. They benefitted from his playing the clown, the extremist, the chief
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:34 PM
Sep 2019

diversion, and the trash talker. But they wanted every single thing he got done. He was for them just the front man. He could play crazy while they could pretend to be sane. They needed this infusion of Trump cultists to stay alive. It’s a parasitical relationship.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
8. The trending thought seems to be that Repukes are afraid of being primaried if they oppose dipshit..
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:03 PM
Sep 2019

So how about when the primaries are over and it's time to vote on impeachment?

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
14. Since many GOP politicians are all pretty much rightwing, the
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:35 PM
Sep 2019

fear of being primaried by others further to right is real, bottom line, the more batshit crazy a GOP candidate is, the easier a democratic one can defeat them in a general election even in hardcore red states.

The GOP establishment knows further shifting to the extreme right speeds complete disaster for them at federal election levels

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
26. My best friend's
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 10:37 PM
Sep 2019

sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Trump commit numerous acts of treason last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

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