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CousinIT

(9,217 posts)
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:10 PM Sep 2019

Mood during Watergate vs Mood now...David Rothkopf - very much worth a read

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Watergate occurred when I was a teenager. But I remember vividly that the mood at the time was different from now. As the investigation continued, it became clear that profound issues were at stake: the Constitution, our democracy, the presidency, the rule of law.

Those words get used a lot today. And there is no question but that the stakes are every bit as high or higher thanks to the serial abuses of Trump and his supporters and the specter posed by Trumpism, a malevolent, hate-driven, racist, nationalist movement as destructive...
...as any we have seen in our country's history. Trump has already shown a disregard for the institutions of the country and our values that surpasses by far Nixon's criminal enterprises. He seeks power for himself, to satisfy his greed and his ego.

He has failed every test of leadership put to him. HIs betrayal of the country to a foreign enemy is the most despicable, most damage traitorous act in our history. The gutting of our Department of Justice by Bill Barr far surpasses any damage done by Nixon's cronies.

Mitch McConnell has shown an unwillingness to place country before party or personal political gain at every turn rendering the Senate into an obstacle to justice and the will of the people rather than maintaining its tradition as the world's greatest deliberative body.

No, he crimes of Trump exceed those of Nixon in every way, as does the damage he has done and the threat he poses to the future of the country. And yet,something feels different this time that is also a great threat,a threat to Trump, McConnell & Barr ever being held accountable.

The tone of the national debate at the moment seems more shrill and less serious. Certainly there are serious voices out there and sound analyses. But in general the feel of the moment seems more like some great sporting event than it does a battle to restore a damaged nation.

This is due in part to the nature of 21st Century politics, to the superficiality and emotion of social media debates, to the lunatic fringe fatuousness of media outlets like Fox...but also to the sound-bite, story-of-the-minute shallowness of most broadcast networks.

I'm not nostalgic for Watergate. But watch the video of the era, read the news stories. They had gravitas. It seemed most major actors--not all to be sure, but most--realized the stakes and that history was the audience that would ultimately judge them.

We need to stop a moment and recognize the stakes, the grievous nature of Trump, McConnell & Barr's crimes, the preciousness of the institutions and values they are defiling, and the unspeakable damage to America and the world that would be caused were justice not to be done.

We must put our best selves forward, our best leaders, our best voices. We must prepare the case against Trump and his co-conspirators as if all will be lost should we lose, we must prepare to persuade the most skeptical and demanding judge.

We need to find rigor and moral certainties and the words to frame our actions and our goals. We need to realize this is a different time from a week ago. The next few months will and must resonate for decades and centuries to come if they are handled properly.

If we allow this to be more of the vituperative circus of the past 3 years, we will cede victory to those who are obliterating what is best about our government, seeking to bend it into a tool of their own personal greed and ambition & that of some of our worst enemies worldwide.

Speaker Pelosi is seeking to do this. Chairmen Schiff and Nadler and Cummings are doing likewise. But we all have a role in this. We all define the mood and the moment and the direction in which America's political tides will flow from now forward.

Look backwards, look at history, weigh the stakes. And look forward, look at your children and consider what failing might mean for them. It is one of the moments by which we will all be judged, by which posterity will judge our collective character.

Trump will be impeached. What happens thereafter will be the consequence of whether the impeachment process and what comes after is handled by a people who are acting as though the future of one of the world's great nations depends upon--as it most undeniably does.
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Mood during Watergate vs Mood now...David Rothkopf - very much worth a read (Original Post) CousinIT Sep 2019 OP
Well said oswaldactedalone Sep 2019 #1
What? Not holding VP Pence's feet to the fire in this mess as well? Backseat Driver Sep 2019 #2
Fiscal enid602 Sep 2019 #3
I have a very different impression vlyons Sep 2019 #4
He's preaching to the chior. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #5
Your last paragraph oswaldactedalone Sep 2019 #7
yes, "very much worth a read" Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #6
millennials don't vote for the republicans EricaGriswoldAuthor Sep 2019 #8

enid602

(8,591 posts)
3. Fiscal
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:23 PM
Sep 2019

Don’t forget tRump’s trashing of the country’s finances; the deficit could soar to $1.5T this year, making it mathematically impossible for the Gov’t to meet its SS, Medicare and Medicaid responsibilities.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. I have a very different impression
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

I was 25 when burglars broke into Watergate; 27 when Nixon resigned. It seems to me that there is much more awareness that monopolistic corporate money has captured and corrupted our democracy. The shrinking of the middle class has enabled people to understand that we need big structural changes. We are tired of spending trillions of $$$ on endless wars that result in nothing of benefit to average Americans, but never any money for healthcare, infrastructure, education etc It's why Warren's campaign has taken off.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
5. He's preaching to the chior.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:41 PM
Sep 2019

If you're in favor of impeachment, you're not part of the problem. It's the other side. The side that wants to stick it to the libs. The side that posts on social media, "Piss off a liberal. Vote Trump." This is just junior high behavior. The same junior high behavior that keeps them from admitting when they're wrong, when they've made a mistake, or when someone has conned them. They will stick their ignorant heads in the sand & double down. I would like to believe that it isn't really 40% of our fellow citizens, but that approval number has remained amazingly consistent the past three years.

40% of our fellow citizens would burn the house down just to own the libs. Thank you hate radio. And thank you dems for ignoring it for 40 years.

oswaldactedalone

(3,489 posts)
7. Your last paragraph
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

is totally on point. Why are dems constantly asleep at the switch? I don’t understand the thinking behind letting the Thugs run roughshod over our values.

8. millennials don't vote for the republicans
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:07 PM
Sep 2019

There is a reason why they have been pretty much kicked out of California. Texas will be next and possibly florida. Millennials don't vote for them and now, we never will.

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