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erronis

(15,170 posts)
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 01:12 PM Sep 2019

Slate: "A Former ICE Chief Melts Down" - absolutely incredible, appalling, and expected.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/thomas-homan-ice-meltdown-pramila-jayapal.html

Thomas Homan, the Trump administration’s acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement from January 2017 to June 2018, helped to transform the agency into an arm of Donald Trump’s nativist agenda. During his 17 months, ICE escalated its terror tactics against immigrant communities, tormented thousands of individuals in ICE custody, and lied to federal courts. On Thursday, asked to answer for his agency’s conduct and policies in a congressional hearing, he responded with a meltdown that perfectly captured a lawless organization’s rejection of any rules or authority that might limit its power.


The most indelible moment arrived when Homan’s time expired—and he refused to stop speaking. Jayapal attempted to gavel him down, but he continued to insult her. His rant ended with a moment of rage as he lectured Jayapal: “I’m a taxpayer, you work for me!”

Former ⁦@ICEgov⁩ Dir. Tom Homan shows no respect to ⁦@RepJayapal⁩ during a House hearing today after going over his time, shouting out,
“I'm a taxpayer, you work for me!” pic.twitter.com/kVK2VlWinG
— Andrew Kimmel (@andrewkimmel) September 26, 2019

This was not his first blowup at the prospect of having to answer to criticism. Earlier this month, Homan engaged in a similar performance, attempting to shout down Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez after his time expired. Like Jayapal, Ocasio-Cortez had to gavel him down.
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Slate: "A Former ICE Chief Melts Down" - absolutely incredible, appalling, and expected. (Original Post) erronis Sep 2019 OP
"Just following Orders" Pachamama Sep 2019 #1
I hope that works out just as well for him as it did for those in the Nuremberg trails. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #14
I hope she retorted, I'm a member of congress and we are BOTH working for the CITIZENS lostnfound Sep 2019 #2
That was my thought too. If you take an oath of office, you are agreeing that your personal beliefs erronis Sep 2019 #5
He just wants a WOC under his heel Grokenstein Sep 2019 #12
Slimy rat should do jail time for lying to the Feds. nt oasis Sep 2019 #3
Lying, racist trash dalton99a Sep 2019 #4
Homan. AZ8theist Sep 2019 #6
This guy and others like him have lost any inkling of what it is to act civilized ... as a matter... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #7
Act that way all the way down... JHB Sep 2019 #9
It has totally DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #15
agreed DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #18
I would have answered that I work for the United States of America, patphil Sep 2019 #8
Exactly. But that is not who he thinks he reports to. The "base" erronis Sep 2019 #13
Homan is auditioning for a Fox News gig. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #10
Pretty soon fux newz will just be broadcasting to their own panelists. erronis Sep 2019 #17
I think there may be a cardiac event in his future. BadgerMom Sep 2019 #11
Ragebellowing is "in" again under Puppet Sharpie Grokenstein Sep 2019 #16
Imagine being a spouse or child of this airbag. Once more of them are shunned by families erronis Sep 2019 #19
When I first watched the clip SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #20
He seems nice nt renate Sep 2019 #21
Fascist scum. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #22
Neanderthal robleb Sep 2019 #23
Homan worked for US during the conduct at issue. Qutzupalotl Sep 2019 #24

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
14. I hope that works out just as well for him as it did for those in the Nuremberg trails.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019

As well, you could almost (almost) sympathize with lower lever soldiers obeying orders as they were trained to do, under the pressure of the chain of command, but if we are looking at comparisons to that Nazi administration, he'd be a Himmler, Hess or Goring. Officers that were true believers, who relished their roles in mass torture and murder.

lostnfound

(16,161 posts)
2. I hope she retorted, I'm a member of congress and we are BOTH working for the CITIZENS
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 01:38 PM
Sep 2019

Citizen is a higher calling than taxpayer, damn it.
As a matter of fact, plenty of people targeted by ICE are taxpayers, not citizens.

erronis

(15,170 posts)
5. That was my thought too. If you take an oath of office, you are agreeing that your personal beliefs
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 01:51 PM
Sep 2019

are less than your willingness to uphold the laws of that office.

But even the distinction between taxpayer and someone within our territories is too restrictive. Citizens, Residents, Aliens, Taxpayers - these can be used as divisive terms when needed.

Sometimes as in this current situation, the chain of command needs to be personally examined rather than blindly followed.

Thank you for your response. I certainly hope other office-holders in the US government as well as other jurisdictions will realize their duties.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
12. He just wants a WOC under his heel
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:02 PM
Sep 2019

Nothing else matters to him, clearly.
The "MAGA" philosophy in a nutshell.
Somebody remind me again, who are the snowflakes?

AZ8theist

(5,407 posts)
6. Homan.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 02:19 PM
Sep 2019

A fucking racist Nazi fucking douchebag.

How can we get this fucking traitor behind bars just like at Nuremberg???

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
7. This guy and others like him have lost any inkling of what it is to act civilized ... as a matter...
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 02:44 PM
Sep 2019

of fact, I find that lots of repugs act this way...no one else but them and only them deserve any respectful behavior. This is why we need to take the gloves off, dust off the book of insults, arm ourselves with the word of law via the Constitution and its supporting Amendments and go after these law breakers and contempt of Congress idiots. The Senators conducting the House hearings deserve at least a minimum décor of respect (at least for the office they hold). Homan clearly shows that he doesn't give a crap about the rule of law nor follow any normal human dignity.

Steve Miller must be giving out classes.

JHB

(37,152 posts)
9. Act that way all the way down...
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

"I think it's very important that you pay attention to my opinion... but not so important that I need to bother spelling my sign right."

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
15. It has totally
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:06 PM
Sep 2019

It has totally spun out of control.................worse yet, it is getting worse by the hour and day.............

Soon, if it hasn't happened already, it will be irreversible...........

I can't even imagine, if we were able to stop all this shit in it's tracks and begin to undo the huge amount of damage that has been done................it would take decades to get us back to even where we were three years ago..Much more if we tried to undo the past 19 years of fraud, corruption and deceit that has been dumped on the U.S. citizens, our government and even the rest of the world.

I see no signs of it even slowing down. The COUP is either complete, or nearly complete...........

Thank you everyone, who listened to a few candidates commercials in the weeks before the election, voted on the lies and then went back to burying their heads in the sand until the last minute before the next election.

As James Carville said on election night in 2016, the U.S. voters are about to learn big time that their voting has consequences...

WASF,

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
18. agreed
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:09 PM
Sep 2019

Back in high school we would have an asshole like this, and one of us would take the nasty guy out back of school and beat the shit out him. Too bad we can't do the same thing, (but without violence,) to this group of nasty mean Republicans......

patphil

(6,144 posts)
8. I would have answered that I work for the United States of America,
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 02:54 PM
Sep 2019

and that means I work for everyone, not just you.
It also means that I work for the people you despise; the people you treat so badly.
It's my job to protect them from people like you.

erronis

(15,170 posts)
17. Pretty soon fux newz will just be broadcasting to their own panelists.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:08 PM
Sep 2019

5+ years ago I would see their screens up in airports, bars, hospitals(!). Now I don't have to put up with their self-serving blather.

I guess if you happen to be a visitor to the WH or other executive agency then the crap may be in the lobby/waiting room/west wing.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
16. Ragebellowing is "in" again under Puppet Sharpie
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:07 PM
Sep 2019

...although of course it's been the trend since even before the Teabaggers started their screaming-fit "town halls."

"To hell with any pretense of civility--but of course always demand it from the very liberals you want to see lined up and shot." -- Teabaggerosity 101

erronis

(15,170 posts)
19. Imagine being a spouse or child of this airbag. Once more of them are shunned by families
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:10 PM
Sep 2019

and friends, they can go off to live in their own survivalist enclaves deep in the forests of Idowntknow.

SCantiGOP

(13,862 posts)
20. When I first watched the clip
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

I was hoping he was going to stroke out. Looked like the big red-faced asshole came close.

Qutzupalotl

(14,285 posts)
24. Homan worked for US during the conduct at issue.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:57 PM
Sep 2019

We paid HIS salary. So he should STFU with the theatrics and answer the questions.

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