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IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:46 PM Sep 2019

These five freshman congresswomen changed history by becoming unlikely leaders on impeachment





(CNN)When a group of moderate House freshmen Democrats moved from hard no to hell yes on starting an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, they changed the dynamic for House Democrats, and indeed -- the course of history.

The reason they made their announcement and explained their reasoning as a group, in an op-ed in The Washington Post, is because they had already formed a bond over their national security background -- especially the five women: Elissa Slotkin of Michigan and Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, both ex-CIA officers; Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania who was in the Air Force; Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey and Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia were Naval officers.

They met on the 2018 campaign trail as first time candidates who kept bumping into each other at events with mutual donors and supporters.

When they got to talking, these five would-be congresswomen realized that they had a lot in common, despite being from different parts of the country: they all had careers in national security they were trying to parlay into elected office.
They became fast friends, and called themselves the "badasses."

"I think badasses kind of came organically from the group since we all had either served in the military or in the CIA," Houlahan said.
They are now a band of sisters who bonded while storming the unfamiliar terrain of politics.

"Being able to text folks and say, 'you know, I'm really getting hit up on this issue, how have you been handling it?' 'I'm not sure how to translate my service into something that's relatable. How do you guys do that?'" Slotkin said she frequently asked the others.
"We have a lot in common," said Spanberger. "We all were working to flip seats to be elected in places where voters may not typically vote for people like us or with our backgrounds."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/badass-women-impeachment-democrats-oped/index.html


Video at the link. This is why we shouldn't necessarily purge moderates out. #NotAllModerates Moderate Dems generally do the right thing on important party line matters like this, especially these freshman women.

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These five freshman congresswomen changed history by becoming unlikely leaders on impeachment (Original Post) IronLionZion Sep 2019 OP
That would be insane to "purge moderates".. Cha Sep 2019 #1
Half of Dems identify as moderate or conservative. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #2
Exactly, TwilightZone! Cha Sep 2019 #6
Agreed on all that. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #7
Well said! I don't think they're Cha Sep 2019 #9
It's not becoming more liberal, it's reverting back to its liberal past. KPN Sep 2019 #18
Blue dogs are from districts that are either slowly or rapidly transitioning to blue. Blue_true Sep 2019 #3
Impt. reminder about the Republican presence on the West coast, appalachiablue Sep 2019 #10
Let's hope they don't get primaried from the left mcar Sep 2019 #4
+++ brer cat Sep 2019 #5
Not much danger of that here in MI-8. It's a red-turning-purple district & Elissa Slotkin catbyte Sep 2019 #21
I wish her well in her reelection mcar Sep 2019 #23
They, along with the two congressmen, are the real patriots BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #8
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #11
+2 flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #15
Definition Of Moderate? colsohlibgal Sep 2019 #12
35% of Democrats identify as moderate. 13% more identify as conservative. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #13
As a DFL member of DU, I couldn't agree more. pazzyanne Sep 2019 #20
All politics is local IronLionZion Sep 2019 #24
The women are here....finally. rickyhall Sep 2019 #14
Impressive freshmen women! Talented & intelligent group. onetexan Sep 2019 #16
And one of them is mine. So glad we elected Elissa Slotkin in MI-8 catbyte Sep 2019 #17
Being a moderate is fine, depending on what the specific topic is Tarc Sep 2019 #19
K&R yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #22
I'm glad they finally got with the program but... intheflow Sep 2019 #25
Disparage them all you want ("whitesplaining"), but Pelosi moved fast after their op-ed. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #27
Pelosi is a white woman and she's also leading on this issue IronLionZion Sep 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author intheflow Sep 2019 #29
Good article, but one comment Bettie Sep 2019 #26

Cha

(296,671 posts)
1. That would be insane to "purge moderates"..
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:40 PM
Sep 2019

they represent "moderate" parts of our Country and no doubt helped us win the Democratic House Victory in 2018.

Without which we wouldn't even be having the Impeachment conversation.

Thank you for this article, IronLionZion..

The reason they made their announcement and explained their reasoning as a group, in an op-ed in The Washington Post, is because they had already formed a bond over their national security background -- especially the five women: Elissa Slotkin of Michigan and Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, both ex-CIA officers; Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania who was in the Air Force; Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey and Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia were Naval officers

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/badass-women-impeachment-democrats-oped/index.html

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
2. Half of Dems identify as moderate or conservative.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:52 PM
Sep 2019

A lot of DUers really have no clue what makes up the Democratic party and seem to assume the rest of it is just like they are.

It's becoming more liberal, but it's quite certainly not exclusively liberal. And never has been.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/225074/conservative-lead-ideology-down-single-digits.aspx

Cha

(296,671 posts)
6. Exactly, TwilightZone!
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:13 PM
Sep 2019

It makes me crazy when the importance of our moderate Dems across the Country aren't respected for who they are and what they bring to the party.

It's kind of a big picture outlook

The Blue Wave was mostly won by moderates and Healthcare was an important issue!

The midterm elections cemented Obamacare's legacy and showed Democrats can actually win on healthcare


snip//

With Democrats' victory in the House, Obamacare repeal is dead.

Democrats hold a strong advantage on healthcare and Obamacare looks stronger than ever.

Three deep-red states expanded Medicaid, a key part of Obamacare, via ballot initiatives

More..
https://www.businessinsider.com/2018-midterm-election-results-obamacare-healthcare-big-winner-2018-11

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
7. Agreed on all that.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:19 PM
Sep 2019

The insistence that one size fits all is frustrating, and it still sometimes surprises me that supposedly politically-savvy people continue to make that assertion. All politics are local in the end.

KPN

(15,633 posts)
18. It's not becoming more liberal, it's reverting back to its liberal past.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019

Point of fact, I had always thought of myself as moderate. I still do. I am not a socialist and have never considered myself far left. However, here at DU I have been characterized or accused or labeled as such. In part, it’s a function of having been around for almost 7 decades. But I haven’t, nor have my basic views regarding the role of government, changed. If I am impatient, it is not because I’m radical or far left, it’s because I’m tired of backsliding toward right center and actually right on issues that affect every citizen for 4 straight decades. I am a moderate.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. Blue dogs are from districts that are either slowly or rapidly transitioning to blue.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

I view them as a necessary step in the progression. They win seats more liberal candidates have no chance of winning. The best ones change with their districts, becoming more progressive with time. People need to remember that California was once pretty reliable for republicans and a lot of the democrats that came from there were blue dogs, same with Washington State and Oregon. Virginia is a state that used to be reliably red, but is now blue and getting bluer.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
10. Impt. reminder about the Republican presence on the West coast,
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:25 PM
Sep 2019

TY. I was very much aware of the influence, esp. of Reagan in DC for 8 years, what a time.

On the Old Dominion, Virginia, better hurry up turning blue..

mcar

(42,270 posts)
4. Let's hope they don't get primaried from the left
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:54 PM
Sep 2019

They are putting country before their own job security.

catbyte

(34,306 posts)
21. Not much danger of that here in MI-8. It's a red-turning-purple district & Elissa Slotkin
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 08:04 PM
Sep 2019

won with only 50.6% of the vote to Mike Bishop's 49.4%. Someone to the left of Slotkin wouldn't stand a chance and Michigan Democrats know it. republicans have held that seat since 2001. Our district includes Oakland County, north of Detroit, which is a bastion of the gop.

BigmanPigman

(51,551 posts)
8. They, along with the two congressmen, are the real patriots
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:21 PM
Sep 2019

in this chapter in history! Whenever I hear any of them discuss what drove them to their final decision it really is a lesson in patriotism.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
12. Definition Of Moderate?
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:33 PM
Sep 2019

Against a more fair tax system, which has been chipped away at since Reagan? Open to more war?

I question trying to entice more moderates, the millennials are an enormous block and skew way more progressive than their parents. They more than anything drove the big mid term democratic gains in Congress. I think we need to excite them.

It is funny most people seem to get more moderate as they age, the opposite has happened with some of us.



TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
13. 35% of Democrats identify as moderate. 13% more identify as conservative.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:39 PM
Sep 2019

We probably shouldn't write them all off, unless you believe we can do without half the party.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/225074/conservative-lead-ideology-down-single-digits.aspx

"They more than anything drove the big mid term democratic gains in Congress. "

No, the big mid-term gains were almost entirely because of moderate candidates winning swing districts.

"Moderate Democratic candidates were the big winners of swing congressional districts in the 2018 midterm elections, flipping most of the 28 key House districts from Republicans’ control and winning key gubernatorial races, including Michigan, Wisconsin, Kansas, and Illinois. Democrats’ net gain in the House was 26 seats."

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/18071700/progressive-democrats-house-midterm-elections-2018

pazzyanne

(6,541 posts)
20. As a DFL member of DU, I couldn't agree more.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019

I strongly support policies that improve human conditions, but being an older member from the Midwest, I am more conservative than many members here. Does that mean I have no right to be here? Sometimes I wonder when there are comments made by some members. My personal views do not keep me from supporting our candidates, no matter what!

Thank you, TwilightZone!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
24. All politics is local
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 09:10 PM
Sep 2019

if you don't live in their district, you don't have to vote for them. Most of them flipped suburban seats held by Republicans but became more competitive as demographics changed.

It makes sense for someone like AOC to primary a moderate in NYC, but not in suburban Richmond Virginia. Our efforts are best spent on increasing our numbers in Congress so that long time liberals can have leadership positions. We saw this with Dems taking over the house so Pelosi became speaker again. We need to do that with the Senate and more state legislatures.

onetexan

(13,018 posts)
16. Impressive freshmen women! Talented & intelligent group.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:52 PM
Sep 2019

This goes to Reps AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, & Ayanna Presley as well, among others. 2018 brought incredible female power into the halls of Congress. I hope they continue in politics for a long time, continue to fight for us & be great role models for future young women. i'm sure their parents are so proud.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
19. Being a moderate is fine, depending on what the specific topic is
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019

I have three extremely bright lines that cannot be crossed; pro-choice, addressing racial disparity (incomer, institutional racism, police brutality, etc...) and LGBT rights.

Environmental issues, spending, taxes, foreign policy, there's wiggle room for compromise and give-and-take, a Dem doesn't have to match my beliefs 100% in those areas, I'll listen to them.

The first 3? Firm and absolute, IMO.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
25. I'm glad they finally got with the program but...
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:46 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:45 PM - Edit history (2)

this is a whole heap ‘o whitesplaining. What about the POC who’ve lead this charge way ahead of the curve?

Rep. Al Green filed for impeachment in 2017
Rep. Maxine Waters called for mpeachment in 2017
Rep. Rashida Tlaib called for impeachment in January

But somehow, 5 white women who finally moved to the side of impeachment last week are the ‘leaders.’

*Edited to add link to the original tweet I got this from.


SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
27. Disparage them all you want ("whitesplaining"), but Pelosi moved fast after their op-ed.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:09 PM
Sep 2019

The party needs unity, not accusations of racism lurking in every corner. I applaud Green, Waters, and Tlaib for their actions, but Pelosi didn't believe there was enough there. You may not like it, but if impeachment is couched in terms of national security by those who actually served in the military and CIA, "middle America" will likely get on board, as we're seeing in recent polls.



IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
28. Pelosi is a white woman and she's also leading on this issue
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

I get what you're saying. But the last week was the tipping point where Dems got enough votes to proceed.

There are many articles posted on DU about the gang of 4 and Maxine Waters. I posted this because there wasn't anything posted like it.

Response to intheflow (Reply #25)

Bettie

(16,049 posts)
26. Good article, but one comment
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:51 AM
Sep 2019

with regard to your final comment.

I don't see an effort to purge moderates. Rather, I see an effort to purge liberals from the party by exclusively catering to moderate/conservatives.

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