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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRudy has lost his marbles. I still believe there is something we don't know yet.
What is the old connection between Rudy and Trump that is causing Rudy to lose his marbles. They had a long relationship in New York City. Rudy was a prosecutor and Mayor all those years Trump was getting away with shit.
Is Rudy risking everything out of friendship? That's hard to believe.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Trump bribed people. He has admitted this, and bragged about it.
hlthe2b
(102,132 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)Why was Rudy willing to commit crimes for Trump? Rudy knows the law. That's the something we don't know yet.
Meadowoak
(5,536 posts)stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)the kid in the classroom frantically waving his hand like a semaphore. The "connection" is that Rudy is an addict for the spotlight. Rudy recruited HIMSELF to the team. And was willing to "do dirt" to ingratiate.
(but, IMO, Rudy was pretty much a scum bag way back when too.)
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)He has even less of a moral backing than we thought. This is all just to win his stupid election.
I could understand wanting to hide the Kompromat...that I could understand...but to sell your soul for an election is just really freaking sad.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)Graham % Margin of Victory
2002 +10
2008 +15
2014 +17
Lead in June poll for 2020 SC Senate +15 to +17
He sided with the Maverick (McCain) much of his career. He did not always line up with the GOP majority.
With the sort of lead he has, he has some political capital to vote his conscience.
He has previously said about Trump:
He called Trump a "jackass"
Donald Trump is a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.
(Trump's planned withdrawal from Syria) stain on the honor of the United States.
the most flawed nominee in the history of the Republican Party.
"He doesn't represent my party. He doesn't represent the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. ... He's the ISIL man of the year."
He took our problems in 2012 with Hispanics and made them far worse by espousing forced deportation. Looking back, we should have basically kicked him out of the party.
The more you know about Donald Trump, the less likely you are to vote for him. The more you know about his business enterprises, the less successful he looks. The more you know about his political giving, the less Republican he looks. We should have done this months ago.
I think this whole assault on his credentials of being a successful businessman and being a true Republican conservative is beginning to work,
This is not about who we nominate anymore as Republicans as much as its who we are. This is a fight for the heart and soul of the Republican Party. What is conservatism? If its Donald Trump carrying the conservative banner I think not only do we lose the election, but well be unable in the future to grow the conservative cause.
As much as I disagree with Ted Cruz, if it came down to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, I would be firmly in Teds camp because I think he really is a conservative,
How many of these guys when there were 17 of us basically hid in a corner? They didnt wanna, you know, poke the guy. They didnt wanna get people mad. Ted Cruz was running as his best friend. Any time you leave a bad idea or a dangerous idea alone, any time you ignore what could become an evil force, you wind up regretting it.
"I don't think he's a reliable Republican conservative. I don't believe that Donald Trump has the temperament and judgment to be commander in chief. I think Donald Trump is going to places where very few people have gone and I'm not going with him."
"I think embracing Donald Trump is embracing demographic death."
"Dick Cheney's a great man. We see the world a lot alike when it comes to foreign policy. I can understand when people want to support the nominee of the Republican Party. I would like to be able to do that, but I just can't. Maybe I'm the outlier here. Probably am."
"If there was ever a time for the country to have conservative leadership in the House and Senate, it will be in 2017 because no matter who wins the presidency -- Clinton or Trump -- we will need some rational people up there putting brakes on some of these very bad ideas."
"I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office,"
"I'm a Republican, and he's not. He's not a conservative Republican, he's an opportunist. He's not fit to be president of the United States."
"Donald Trump is not a conservative Republican. He's an opportunist. He's not fit to be President of the United States."
Graham said in a tweet after he voted that he cast his ballot for independent candidate Evan McMullin instead of voting for Trump.
Graham called Trump's decision to share unverified videos purporting to show violence committed by Muslims "inappropriate" and "very unhelpful" in the war on terrorism.
Sen. Lindsey Graham is disgusted with the GOPs embrace of Donald Trump: My party has gone batshit crazy.
Trump bashed his dying best friend in the Senate and spit on him repeatedly after he died.
After more than two years of intensive licking of Trump's balls, Trump passed over Graham to name Barr AG.
Graham could have just cooled it and won in 2020 with a good lead in the polls.
The wildly excessive 180 degree change strongly suggests they've got something on Graham.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The Republicans who say that don't seem to realize that their party went batshit crazy decades ago, which is what made the rise of Trump possible.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,295 posts)People need to connect the dots.
They all lead to Putin.
Wounded Bear
(58,603 posts)Rudy was supposedly a "great" prosecutor going after mob bosses and shit.
How selective was he in which mob bosses got prosecuted? Was he perhaps working for one mob boss while in office and taking out the opposition using the legal system?
shockey80
(4,379 posts)He may have also been very selective when it came to Trump. There is something there.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,603 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)I dont listen to any of them except occasional clips here, but giuliani is going to keep saying stuff he should keep quiet about.
Besides hes so unhinged I think some republicans are even embarrassed by him.
Jirel
(2,014 posts)I dont think Rudy wants to testify, though. Way too many skeletons in that closet. He kind of hinted at that in some of his deranged interviews.
Right now his former law firm and their liability insurance reps are giving each other high fives over drinks.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,502 posts)(could be he might be in a lot of debt and needs $$$$ and/or is hiding illicit $$$ and that fact might come out during his upcoming divorce trial )
Koch Ebola
(831 posts)Trump is too egotistic to resign. I have a theory that he will fake a illness.
I wrote about his mental state in my Blog.
https://stephenjaymorrisblog.tumblr.com/
mopinko
(70,021 posts)all they have to do it say he passed out, shuffle him off to a friendly doc, get an mri of what is left of his brain, and bingo.
diminished capacity.
the hole card.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Yeah, I think there is a lot more there, and likely a lot more to the Russian collusion issue that we know. Trump is Russian mobbed up and has been for a while, there is no way that Putin would not take advantage of that.
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)He's a traitor and beholden to them...
Records show Mr. Giuliani has had ties dating to at least 2004 to TriGlobal, a company that has provided image consulting to Russian oligarchs and clients with deep Kremlin ties. They have included Transneft, Russias state-owned oil pipeline giant, which is the target of Western sanctions imposed after President Vladimir V. Putin annexed Crimea and began meddling in Ukraine.
TriGlobals advisory board includes Ara Abramyan, listed on the companys website as a very close Advisor to the Russian Governments inner circle including the President and the Prime Minister. The companys founding partners are Andrey Drobyshev, who claims to have strong relations with regional and municipal governments in Russia, and Vitaly Pruss, whose website profile says that he has focused on international image development and PR for Russian & Ukrainian companies and that from 2008 to 2011, he worked closely with Giuliani Partners LLC.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-rudy-giuliani.html
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)pwb
(11,252 posts).
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)and he's an attorney and former mayor of NYC! Was he always this willing to ignore risk and make cringe-worthy and incriminating public statements on behalf of his clients? The behavior is extremely odd.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Matter of fact, the USA's government have been run by psychos during the illegal president tenure. Greed and power along with insanity puts the USA in mortal danger.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)People were making fast money in the nineties, and losing it as quickly. About this same time, companies and even local governments were reaching out overseas to establish international business networks.
Rudy and Trump were using their popularity to great advantage, rising to the top of this system.
We're here asking ourselves, what happened to them? The answer: The same thing that has happened to the rest of our society. People have been allowed to be the worst version of themselves, when there is money involved.
machoneman
(3,997 posts)...before they ever throw me in jail, so what, me worry?
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Books_Tea_Alone
(253 posts)...whose family was well-connected politically (Reagan/Bush admins) as well as criminally (family members went to jail). They were in the construction business both in the swamps of NJ and NYC. My friend was young and worked in the "office" as summer help where all of the shady stuff went down. Foolishly he would tell me bits and pieces of info he overheard occasionally. He told me Ghouliani was associated with the "Russian/Jewish"mob (his words) and eventually it would come out. He would not have said this haphazardly- other things he told me about the downfall of other Repubs came true (his family were huge Rethuglicans). He said he was one of the most corrupt individuals that existed back then, as a prosecutor putting people in jail while he was committing the same exact crimes with a different mob group..this was way before he was mayor.