Don the Con and the rest of them are going to learn

[malaise]

that the institutions will always catch the crooks even when we think they're taking too long.

The most important thing after they are removed is strengthening institutions to prevent this from happening again. This is one global mess with crooks in several countries.

[Sherman A1]

1. I hope that you are correct

I am not optimistic such will be the case.

[spanone]

2. K&R...👍🏼

[erronis]

3. Most people with underdeveloped frontal cortexes really don't have a concept of responsibility.

They're the 5yo who thinks there's no worries.

Or the 20yo who thinks "I don't care about being 30"

Or the juvenile in a old-man's body who's brain has actually receded but still has that big-man persona.

Big Loser.

[Midnightwalk]

4. Jail time is a great deterrent

I hope we’re not disappointed. There have been crimes committed.

I think I agree that laws need to be written to prevent future abuses. Not just the things that may not have a statute, but things like the ability to use the department of justice to obstruct justice. Barr has had his finger in ways that might be probable cause for obstruction. Maybe the house or the senate should be able to force recusal in matters involving the president. That would make it harder to obstruct to start with.

Are emoluments against the law or just impeachable? I’d also like to force restitution of federal money that wound up in the presidents pocket.

The senate has the power to approve treaties. What is the regarding breaking treaties? Google says there hasn’t been a case decided. But can a law be passed? Would it be constitutional?

[malaise]

5. The sad truth is that globally we have failed to lock up the crooks particularly

the white collar ones including many who attend the same schools, universities, religious institutions and a plethora of social clubs as those who have been charged with enforcing the rule of law.
Too many good old boys and girls have been given a pass for far too long. This includes, doctors, lawyers, judges policemen and women, politicians, bankers, accountants, real estate folks, computer folks - name an 'effin profession or trade.

Until we enforce the rule of law for all, this shit will continue. And there must be no special prisons for our friends.


That's a nice post

[Perseus]

9. Very well put, you hit the nail in the head.

Thank you.

[wendyb-NC]

15. Right on! It's high past time The orange disease heading our country

is a fantastic place to start.

[malaise]

17. The Supreme Court in the UK have already decided the fate of

Boris Johnson. Then he had to go and apologize to the queen for lying and now every shady thing he ever did is in the press.

It's time for a global clean up.

[Stuart G]

6. Yes, further there are certain crooks who think they can get away with anything.

I don't know how even stronger institutions can stop those people. And unfortunately some do get away. (but not this one fortunately)

[malaise]

10. This one has been getting away with it for 73 years

but instead of settling for the spoils of that great escape he wanted to show Obama.

Ah well. Times up!

[Stuart G]

12. I agree..Times UP...He should have taken the money & run. Trump is going down, & hard!!!

As hard as it gets, I wonder if he knows it ??? I watched the Nixon thing, at the end, he went kind of nuts...

..."I am not a crook." Nixon said. I heard he was talking to the walls at the end. (Heard this at a lecture by Woodward and Bernstein no less)

...I don't mind Trump talking to the walls, after he resigns. (maybe he won't, so they will impeach him)

[Perseus]

7. I admire your optimism.

I have always been an optimist, one of the best lines a friend gave me on a b-day card was "If I could bottle your optimism I would become a millionaire, Happy Bday"...but having said that...so much has happened which has not suffered consequences and accountability, that my optimism has been put to a very hard test. This started during G.W. Bush, I was very optimistic that Obama would investigate Iraq, 9/11, etc. and made accountable those who were guilty of criminal actions, but then he came with his "We must move forward", then the creature and the "best people" in this administration who have gotten away with so much. So, I am going to stay calm and wait for the outcome, I don't want to get overexcited, I am just hoping for the best.

I am not a pessimist, at least not yet, but I have become more of a conservative in the "excitement department" when it comes to punishment for these crooks, too many times they have gotten away with crimes that should have been dealt with the full weight of the law, but didn't.

I hope you are right.

[malaise]

11. Just look at the polls since the Ukraine scandal broke

There are more of us than them.

[rickyhall]

8. But most of the criminals who caused the 08 crash never went down.

[malaise]

13. Bush and Cheney should have been locked up too

long before that.
This time is different though - national security.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. one global mess

Which is why my thoughts keep gravitating to the idea that it's one big sting planned over a couple decades. To catch a fish, think like a fish.

[malaise]

16. It may be - let's hope so

Boris could be gone by midweek

[malaise]

18. Adding this link

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212526121

[Nitram]

19. "The most important thing after they are removed is strengthening institutions to prevent this from

happening again." YES!