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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:08 AM Sep 2019

Diving into the Deep State

The present usage of this word, primarily in many right-wing circles, implies that there are some sinister forces deep in our government.

As prominent propagandists have noted, the more absurd the lie, the more the tendency to believe it. It is what some have called "The Big Lie" theory.

Somewhere along the line, the story changed. Republican conservatives were once the proudest defenders of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and other "deep states" of the government.

Now, they seem to see "spies" in all these organizations? When did this transformation take place with these Republican conservatives? Or do they no longer consider themselves conservative Republicans?

The "deep state" seems to imply a hidden enemy? They are invisible.

Yet, they exist. Some folks are now saying that "deep state operatives" are at work in our government. The transformation seems to be complete.

Is that a paradox?

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randr

(12,409 posts)
2. All it would take is a media that does its job
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:50 AM
Sep 2019

When someone uses the phrase "deep state" they need to explain who, what, where, and why.
Simple questions that will stop this crap in its tracks.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. Deep State is just a rebranded ZOG conspiracy theory
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:04 AM
Sep 2019

it is not fashionable to be openly anti semitic for the right anymore. Have to do it on the down low and toss in liberals and illegals and such.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
4. the transformation coincided with change from Republicans to Russiapublicans
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

When the Grand Old Party became the Gangsters of Putin, when the Republicans became the Russiapublicans, that's when they stopped supporting intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies. You see, Putin does not like those agencies interfering with his plans.

ooky

(8,920 posts)
5. No. They know their base believes in a lot of invisible things. Moreover, their base
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:08 PM
Sep 2019

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is scared of invisible things. Seems perfectly natural for this fairy tale to flourish among their base of morons.

maxsolomon

(33,265 posts)
7. The Trumpists have cowed the FBI and NSA into acquiescence.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

Leaving the CIA with its Trumpist figurehead Director, but otherwise uncompromised.

Note: they're the ones taking him down. The RW certainly has.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
8. K&R, nope kentuck. It's a typical Repuke double-standard.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:45 PM
Sep 2019

I hope FBI agents are still truly at work to prosecute criminals in high places, like Teflon Don and Barr!

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