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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:30 AM Sep 2019

Cops At Wrong House Kill Undocumented Man, Claims He Had No Constitutional Rights

Just before midnight on July 24, 2017, shots rang out at a mobile home park in Southaven, Miss. Police had come looking for a domestic violence suspect, only to knock on the door of the wrong house and then open fire on the innocent man inside. By the time paramedics arrived, 41-year-old Ismael Lopez, an auto mechanic known for mentoring troubled teens and fixing his neighbors’ cars for free, had died of a gunshot wound to the back of his head.

Now, attorneys for the city of Southaven are using an unusual approach to try to persuade a federal judge to dismiss the $20 million civil rights lawsuit filed by Lopez’s widow. They argue that because the victim was an undocumented immigrant, he wasn’t protected by the U.S. Constitution.

The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that people present in the United States have certain basic rights, regardless of their immigration status, affirming in two frequently cited rulings that undocumented immigrants can’t be denied an education or due process in a court of law.

But attorneys for the small city near Memphis claim that because Lopez had no “legally recognized relationship” with the United States, he had no rights under the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, or the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection to all citizens.

In court filings, attorneys for the city have argued Ismael Lopez’s wife lacks the standing to sue because she, too, is an undocumented immigrant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/27/ismael-lopez-southaven-mississippi-police-shooting-constitution/

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Cops At Wrong House Kill Undocumented Man, Claims He Had No Constitutional Rights (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 OP
It would be handy if you could just bring in illegals and execute them when you were done brewens Sep 2019 #1
"or the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection to all citizens." unblock Sep 2019 #2
You are correct. The our constitution protects all persons lettucebe Sep 2019 #3

unblock

(52,092 posts)
2. "or the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection to all citizens."
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
Sep 2019

critical fail!

the 14th amendment guarantees equal protection to all *persons*.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

the amendment carefully delineates which persons are citizens, then talks about the privileges or citizens, then talks about the rights of *persons*.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
3. You are correct. The our constitution protects all persons
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:42 PM
Sep 2019

All persons, it makes no mention of status.

When do we got back to being a nation of laws?

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