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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:17 AM Sep 2019

Was It Worth It? (Why people do/n't report sexual assault. Includes new Franken allegation.)

https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/coming-forward-about-sexual-assault-and-what-comes-after.html

In the two years since the New York Times published a story detailing allegations against Harvey Weinstein, Me Too has become a verb, a movement, a flashpoint. What has been lost in the relatively recent reckoning about sexual assault has been the steep cost — both literal and emotional — for those very people on whose testimony the movement has been built. New York interviewed 25 of them, whose stories date back to the 1970s and up to the present day, to find out what happened after they spoke up and everyone else moved on.

(snip)

Not everyone speaks out. In 2017, eight women accused Senator Al Franken of groping or kissing them without their consent, leading to his resignation. A former staffer who served on Democratic campaigns and works at a large progressive organization spoke on condition of anonymity about why she has not come forward. Franken told ‘New York’ in response to her account, “Two years ago, I would have sworn that I’d never done anything to make anyone feel uncomfortable, but it’s clear that I must have been doing something. As I’ve said before, I feel terrible that anyone came away from an interaction with me feeling bad.” Sirius XM recently announced that Franken will host his own show.

(snip)

"I was just out of college in my first job, working for U.S. senator Patty Murray. Al Franken was the guest speaker at an event in 2006. I was working the photo line, and he pulled me in. Murray said, 'Let’s take the picture.' And he puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, 'Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.' And I’m just frozen. It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable. It was such a confusing experience. At first, I didn’t take it all that seriously.

"At the time of the incident, I think, I’m going to go to law school. All I want to do is run for office in my home state. This created a moment of reflection on like, Who the hell do you think you are? There is something that tells men that they, particularly those who have a lot of power, that they have access to my body in some way that is based on the hierarchy of the organization that we’re working in or society or whatever it is. My anger wasn’t directed toward him. It was more like, How audacious am I to think I could do anything? It rocked my confidence. As I look back on my career, I am always in deputy roles and support roles."
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Was It Worth It? (Why people do/n't report sexual assault. Includes new Franken allegation.) (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 OP
Why are they going after Franken again? Dem4Life1102 Sep 2019 #1
Did you read the entire article? It talks a lot about why people come forward or don't. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #2
Progressive politicians can be ass grabbing pigs, same as anyone else. hunter Sep 2019 #7
Looky, looky. ANOTHER anonymous allegation. BlueStater Sep 2019 #3
Agreed. Having seen our senate leadership fall for the previous scam Vogon_Glory Sep 2019 #4
Just when he gets a radio show? Where was she 2 years ago? Those allegations all stopped once... brush Sep 2019 #5
"Where was she 2 years ago?" WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #6

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
3. Looky, looky. ANOTHER anonymous allegation.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:37 AM
Sep 2019


Trump has been accused by over 20 women of sexual assault and every single one made their name public. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

My response to this one is the same as the others. I'm not going to throw Al Franken to the wolves based on anonymous accusations that haven't been investigated (and obviously never will be).

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
4. Agreed. Having seen our senate leadership fall for the previous scam
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:49 AM
Sep 2019

I think this allegation ought to be treated like it came off the pages of Breitbart unless the accuser steps forward.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me this, shame on me.

brush

(53,743 posts)
5. Just when he gets a radio show? Where was she 2 years ago? Those allegations all stopped once...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:18 PM
Sep 2019

Al resigned. What is it with Franken that he's considered so dangerous that he has to be beaten down at every turn? Guess we can expect more anonymous accusers to come out of the woodwork now that Franken is trying to resurrect his career.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
6. "Where was she 2 years ago?"
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:23 PM
Sep 2019

She talks about why she didn't say anything at the time, and the article talks to other women who did come forward in similar cases and what it cost them.

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