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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe need the full word-for-word transcript of the Ukranian call. It will PROVE the quid pro quo.
Toward the bottom of page three of the whistle-blower's complaint he or she writes:
"In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was producedas is customaryby the White House Situation Room."
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html
Since we have the shortened version, can't we force the WH to turn over the full version, one that likely refers to Trump's favor 8 times and is likely more explicit about Trump's quid pro quo which is signaled by the ease with which the WH released the shorter memo-transcript.
The word-for-word transcript may also have Pompeo on it if the Wall Street Journal is right:
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo took part in the Trump phone call with Ukraine's leader, a senior State Department official said https://on.wsj.com/2neDNno
me_not_you
(75 posts)"In a unanimous decision, the Court ruled in favor of the United States and against President Nixon. Chief Justice Burger, wrote the opinion for the Court, which concluded that presidents do enjoy a constitutionally protected executive privilege, but that the privilege was not absolute. The Court decided that in this case, the Presidents interest in keeping his communications secret was outweighed by the interests of the judiciary in providing a fair trial with full factual disclosure."
https://www.landmarkcases.org/united-states-v-nixon/us-v-nixon-summary-of-the-decision
Given the Nixon case it would be up to SCOTUS.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)me_not_you
(75 posts)How that would shake out is unknown. I served in the military and had a working need to access classified information. What is most damning about this Ukraine Scandal is the memo of the call was classified SECERT//ORCON//NOFORN which in the grand scheme of things is a fairly low classification. In contrast the document the Intercept published was TOP SECERT//SI//ORCON/RE.
The system to store this document was even outside of the "Top Secret" (JWICS) network. It makes no sense to store information of a lower lever classification on such a specialized system. Unless....you are trying to cover that stuff up.
White House Presser:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
The Intercept:
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/