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tblue37

(65,502 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:14 AM Oct 2019

FOX's Judge Napolitano comes out for impeachment!

Fox News legal analyst argues Trump has already admitted to ‘criminal behavior’ — and must be impeached

Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano strongly suggests President Donald Trump has committed an impeachable offense by withholding Ukraine military aid as leverage to seek campaign dirt on Joe Biden.

The conservative legal analyst and former New Jersey Superior Court judge lays out evidence in a new column posted on the Fox News website that Trump broke at least three laws as part of the scheme.

“The criminal behavior to which Trump has admitted is much more grave than anything alleged or unearthed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and much of what Mueller revealed was impeachable,” Napolitano wrote.

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The legal analyst said the founders and lawmakers who wrote campaign finance statutes specifically intended to keep foreign interference out of U.S. elections, and Mueller spent nearly two years investigating Russian efforts to sway the 2016 election — which he said makes Trump’s admitted behavior inexcusable

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More at link:
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/fox-news-legal-analyst-argues-trump-has-already-admitted-to-criminal-behavior-and-must-be-impeached/
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FOX's Judge Napolitano comes out for impeachment! (Original Post) tblue37 Oct 2019 OP
Yea, Judge!! A Fox News profile in courage! ElementaryPenguin Oct 2019 #1
He gets attacked by Hannity and Carlson for saying such things, but he has been tblue37 Oct 2019 #2
Fox News own Dumb and Dumber. Only question, which one is Dumber dem4decades Oct 2019 #5
Dumb and Dumber: Hannity and Ingraham rpannier Oct 2019 #12
Dumb, Dumber and Dipshit? dem4decades Oct 2019 #14
I like that. Carlson is third on that list rpannier Oct 2019 #16
Maybe that's what they want? durablend Oct 2019 #8
fox news is a hive mind of repuke opportunist stupidity. Javaman Oct 2019 #33
I'm sure it's even worse than we suspect Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #3
When you say release the call...you mean the actual Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #17
I mean the actual call. Not a transcript. Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #31
I read that they used voice recognition and then edited it Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #34
all are saying no. since nixon, taping the prez is a no-no. mopinko Oct 2019 #37
That's going to leave a scar. LOL. Vinca Oct 2019 #4
...and this is only what we know about.... samnsara Oct 2019 #6
They say Nixon knew he wouldn't get away with his crimes when he lost Walter Cronkite Clash City Rocker Oct 2019 #7
Something seems wrong. SCVDem Oct 2019 #40
It was said, that the ratings showed, when people were worried, they turned to Uncle Walter empedocles Oct 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #22
Somebody go check Hell. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #10
No kidding! calimary Oct 2019 #26
When good people speak up... we have hope (nt) IndyOp Oct 2019 #11
Another hole in the dike, gab13by13 Oct 2019 #13
If he loses FOX ?? kentuck Oct 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #24
FOX Rebirtherizing Itself as Patriot Channel bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #18
Sadly NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #19
I have heard that Ruppert's son and Paul Ryan (now on Fox's board of directors) have already been... Botany Oct 2019 #20
Too bad most Fox viewers OliverQ Oct 2019 #21
Playing both sides of the fence and totally scripted. Fox is hedging it's bets as tRump is looking PaulRevere08 Oct 2019 #23
You mean like George and Kellyanne Conway? nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #28
He goes after Trump in a column on the FOX News website, too! tblue37 Oct 2019 #25
True that. But folks like him helped build this in the first place. calimary Oct 2019 #29
Absolutely. But we need them to speak against Trump now, though we can't trust them. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #30
We need to win this battle why shoot the guy fighting along side and with you? njhoneybadger Oct 2019 #35
I dont trust anything that comes from Fox. honest.abe Oct 2019 #27
I wonder when MF45 will demand Judge Napolitano be fired from fox saying he spreads fake news? kimbutgar Oct 2019 #32
What you will hear from the mouths of Fox News watchers today. ooky Oct 2019 #36
You won't get that from Shepard Smith... 40RatRod Oct 2019 #39
Agree. nt ooky Oct 2019 #41
Will Faux News sever their ties with Napolitano over this? Martin Eden Oct 2019 #38

tblue37

(65,502 posts)
2. He gets attacked by Hannity and Carlson for saying such things, but he has been
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:21 AM
Oct 2019

critical of Trump on Ukraine, though this is his first direct call for impeachment. Maybe FOX is beginning to pivot.

If Trump loses FOX, he is toast.

We will get some clue if Napolitano suddenly stops appearing on FOX, or if the attacks on him by the opinion guys are allowed to seriously ramp up and become more vicious.

rpannier

(24,345 posts)
12. Dumb and Dumber: Hannity and Ingraham
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:07 AM
Oct 2019

Heinz Spanknobel: Carlson (Spanknobel was leader of the German American Bund)
Dumbestestestesterest: The three couch sitters

durablend

(7,466 posts)
8. Maybe that's what they want?
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:49 AM
Oct 2019
"or if the attacks on him by the opinion guys are allowed to seriously ramp up and become more vicious."


Him and Geraldo in the room arguing and chairs being flung around the room.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
33. fox news is a hive mind of repuke opportunist stupidity.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019

as I have said before, the repukes will turn on benedict donald the moment he becomes a hindrance rather than an advantage.

we have crosses the liability Rubicon.

Buckeyeblue

(5,504 posts)
3. I'm sure it's even worse than we suspect
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:29 AM
Oct 2019

If it wasn't Trump would release the call just so he could run a victory lap around "fake" news. Because that's how he operates. But that's not the case.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. When you say release the call...you mean the actual
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:18 AM
Oct 2019

Transcript before trump "..." it? Right? I was thinking that they would have had to have printed it out - off the secret server. Because they edited from it. It was obvious to me that it wasn't a recreation from notes and recollections like they stupidly claimed. So there's Barr (trump said he wrote the "transcript&quot and likely a couple admin assts. They would all know the gist of what trump redacted.

Buckeyeblue

(5,504 posts)
31. I mean the actual call. Not a transcript.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:41 AM
Oct 2019

I'm sure all of these calls are recorded. Let everyone listen to what was said. This will never happen because it is too damning.

If there is any real national security secrets on the call then just play it for the intelligence committees.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. I read that they used voice recognition and then edited it
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019

for clarification and correction. Like you have to do when you create a text on your phone with the microphone. But won't getting this really take a long time? Like subpoena the courts and then maybe SC?

mopinko

(70,274 posts)
37. all are saying no. since nixon, taping the prez is a no-no.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:54 AM
Oct 2019

just a word for word transcript, voice to text software, and several stenographers.
however, that actual word for word transcript is out there.

Clash City Rocker

(3,402 posts)
7. They say Nixon knew he wouldn't get away with his crimes when he lost Walter Cronkite
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:44 AM
Oct 2019

Trump should see that he’s losing Fox News, which was his last line of defense. The bell tolls for thee, Donnie.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
40. Something seems wrong.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:42 PM
Oct 2019

Sorry.

President Lyndon Johnson, watching live in the White House, reportedly then turned to aides and said, “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America.”

http://www.iancfriedman.com/?p=383

Response to empedocles (Reply #9)

calimary

(81,540 posts)
26. No kidding!
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:21 AM
Oct 2019

Oh MAN! My mind is blown.

Somebody over there actually shaking off the stupor and coming to his senses?

gab13by13

(21,447 posts)
13. Another hole in the dike,
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:11 AM
Oct 2019

for Trump's wittle fingers to plug. Trump is running out of fingers.

I remember the made up Benghazi scandal, how it consumed the news cycle every day, well;

Ukraine! Ukraine! Ukraine! A real scandal.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
15. If he loses FOX ??
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:18 AM
Oct 2019

I have long thought that he could not survive without FOX or a major propaganda outlet.

Response to kentuck (Reply #15)

bucolic_frolic

(43,385 posts)
18. FOX Rebirtherizing Itself as Patriot Channel
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:21 AM
Oct 2019

morph to the center, and never apologize, just keep the money coming in

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
19. Sadly
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:32 AM
Oct 2019

it looks like Brit Hume was back to toeing the company line yesterday - he was strongly critical of Trump last week, but yesterday had flipped and blamed Schiff and Democrats for playing partisan politics

Botany

(70,617 posts)
20. I have heard that Ruppert's son and Paul Ryan (now on Fox's board of directors) have already been...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:36 AM
Oct 2019

... planning for a post Trump Fox Network. They want to get away from Trump ASAP even though
people like Hannity were getting dirt on Hillary from Russia in 2016.

Judge N. knows that Trump is a crook and that installing him and rat fucking our elections was the
biggest crime in out history.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. Too bad most Fox viewers
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:40 AM
Oct 2019

only watch the insane pundits like Ingraham, Carlson, and Hannity. They won't see this.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
23. Playing both sides of the fence and totally scripted. Fox is hedging it's bets as tRump is looking
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:12 AM
Oct 2019

very vulnerable.

tblue37

(65,502 posts)
25. He goes after Trump in a column on the FOX News website, too!
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-trump-attacks-presidency?fbclid=IwAR0zPl21DfHeJb1xu-CtrpxKr99O8M47FMdtjsSzSh0PYAIhix3k24Boj3M


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The criminal behavior to which Trump has admitted is much more grave than anything alleged or unearthed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and much of what Mueller revealed was impeachable.

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Trump has also admitted to accusing the as-yet publicly unnamed whistleblower of treason, and suggesting that the whistleblower and those who have helped him are spies and ought to be treated as spies were in "the old days" (Trump’s phrase) – that is, by hanging.

The president’s allusions to violence are palpably dangerous. They will give cover to crazies who crave violence, as other intemperate words of his have done. His words have already produced offers of "bounties" in return for outing and finding the whistleblower.

Trump also suggested that his impeachment would produce a second American Civil War. This language is a dog whistle to the deranged.

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More at link: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-trump-attacks-presidency?fbclid=IwAR0zPl21DfHeJb1xu-CtrpxKr99O8M47FMdtjsSzSh0PYAIhix3k24Boj3M

Notice he also says "much of what Mueller revealed was also impeachable." I think Napolitano has had it up to here with Trump's criminality, and has no more f**ks to give.

calimary

(81,540 posts)
29. True that. But folks like him helped build this in the first place.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:29 AM
Oct 2019

This polarization.

Every time I hear somebody like Scarborough decrying how horrible trump is - well hell, you helped build this Frankenstein monster. You helped seed this garden of madness. And you watered and fertilized it and tended it and gave it shape and strength. And now you don’t like the result.

But you helped build it to begin with.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
27. I dont trust anything that comes from Fox.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:23 AM
Oct 2019

They could playing games here. Making the play for impeachment then later take it back as more information comes out so it sounds like they being "fair and balanced".

kimbutgar

(21,228 posts)
32. I wonder when MF45 will demand Judge Napolitano be fired from fox saying he spreads fake news?
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:47 AM
Oct 2019

This will be interesting to see the pushback.

ooky

(8,930 posts)
36. What you will hear from the mouths of Fox News watchers today.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:14 AM
Oct 2019

"This is not impeachable". "It's only one sentence." "Americans will not support impeachment for this". "Bill Barr is a serious guy who is going to bring back the goods on the Democrats".

I got all this from about 5 minutes of looking in Fox News last night and 5 minutes this morning.

Yeah, they have commentary from Napolitano but he often disagrees with their underlying narratives. He's an agitator. But, the drumbeat is the same usual Fox News dishonest spin as always.

40RatRod

(532 posts)
39. You won't get that from Shepard Smith...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:00 PM
Oct 2019

...who is on at 3PM everyday. He is a class act and speaks the truth. You will swear you are watching CNN or MSNBC. He must drive FOX watchers crazy.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
38. Will Faux News sever their ties with Napolitano over this?
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 01:45 PM
Oct 2019

He's gone off the reservation (Trump propaganda network).

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