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ffr

(22,674 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 02:19 PM Oct 2019

Seth Abramson: It's Simple

1/ It's simple:

1. Trump demanded a more "reciprocal" US-Ukraine relationship.
2. Ukraine asked for Javelin missiles.
3. Trump replied, "I'd like you to do us a favor, though."
4. Trump asked for a probe of Biden.
5. Ukraine agreed.
6. Trump gave the military aid.

QUID PRO QUO.

2/ And I'll say something else: the explicit nature of the quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine, which I'd note is exactly the agreement Putin wanted Trump to make with Ukraine, is *exactly* what was called Conspiracy to Commit Fraud on the United States in the Mueller Report.

3/ Dems should be able to seamlessly list the 10 crimes committed by Trump and his team (that we know of so far) in the Ukraine scandal. They should be able to seamlessly list the 3 additional impeachable offenses. All Dems should be working from the same list. It's Politics 101. - Seth Abramson
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Seth Abramson: It's Simple (Original Post) ffr Oct 2019 OP
But it is even simpler Jarqui Oct 2019 #1

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
1. But it is even simpler
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 02:27 PM
Oct 2019

None of that matters unless the Dems get substantial movement in the polls.
Because without that, the GOP controlled Senate will not impeach

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