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Botany

(70,585 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:07 PM Oct 2019

MSNBC just now: Turkey and Russia are now or will soon invade Northern Syria to slaughter the Kurds

Good God in Butter and the person who might have given some kind of go ahead on this was Donald Trump*?

This is madness and this could become a conflagration that could spread God only knows where.

* As he was doing Vlad's bidding? The eastern part of the Ukraine that Trump all but acquiesced to
Russia (oil, gas, & pipelines) and the story is that northern Syria is where Vlad wants pipelines.

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MSNBC just now: Turkey and Russia are now or will soon invade Northern Syria to slaughter the Kurds (Original Post) Botany Oct 2019 OP
The human species ... kwolf68 Oct 2019 #1
And where is America's leadership now? Botany Oct 2019 #4
Maddow just reported this - with a prayer that Trump will IndyOp Oct 2019 #2
Here's the Twitter thread... Eugene Oct 2019 #3
thanx for posting Botany Oct 2019 #11
Hours left to stop it... Lawrence says that means it won't be stopped. IndyOp Oct 2019 #5
This is about to become a greater ME war. roamer65 Oct 2019 #6
Now Trump will be a mass murderer. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #7
The Republican backed genocide. Dawson Leery Oct 2019 #8
I'm shocked that Russia is involved in this. Phoenix61 Oct 2019 #9
I feel sick. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2019 #10
USA troops are still there. Iliyah Oct 2019 #12
Vlad's bidding? Of course it is. Trump has been compromised. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #13
Gee. Would THIS be treason? Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #14
Turkish and Syrian rebel forces to start Syria offensive 'shortly': Erdogan's aide: Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #15
In the chaos I'm sure new Islamic terror groups will spring up. This is probably what SweetieD Oct 2019 #16
This will be all out war. roamer65 Oct 2019 #18
Kurdistan Region officials call on Russia to protect Kurds in northern Syria Celerity Oct 2019 #17

Botany

(70,585 posts)
4. And where is America's leadership now?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:12 PM
Oct 2019

I don't like him but can we wake Henry Kissinger up or maybe get Colin Powell or
is Condi Rice around or Nikki Haley?

IndyOp

(15,535 posts)
2. Maddow just reported this - with a prayer that Trump will
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:09 PM
Oct 2019

precipitously change his mind. Some of our troops may die because they did not have time to prepare, but thousands could be saved.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
6. This is about to become a greater ME war.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:15 PM
Oct 2019

Iraqi Kurdistan is not just going to sit there and let this happen. They are going to take on the Turks in the east.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. USA troops are still there.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:24 PM
Oct 2019

Turkey and Russia going to attack them too?

I've always know how fucked up shithole is, but gawd damn, can't the Republicans advise/tell shithole to stop this.

The Kurds are our allies, damn it.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
14. Gee. Would THIS be treason?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:49 PM
Oct 2019

Putin can survive World War III, along with the ultra-rich and their henchmen.

The rest of us, the 99.99%, not so much.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
15. Turkish and Syrian rebel forces to start Syria offensive 'shortly': Erdogan's aide:
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:33 PM
Oct 2019



ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish forces, together with the rebel Free Syrian Army, will cross the Syrian border “shortly”, President Tayyip Erdogan’s communications director said early on Wednesday, as a surprise withdrawal of U.S. troops made way for the Turkish incursion.

Turkey has been poised to advance into northeast Syria since the U.S. troops began vacating the area in an abrupt policy shift by U.S. President Donald Trump widely criticised in Washington as a betrayal of America’s allies, the Kurds.

More at link

Celerity

(43,524 posts)
17. Kurdistan Region officials call on Russia to protect Kurds in northern Syria
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:48 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/08102019




ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – In meetings with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Monday, Kurdistan Region officials urged Russia to step in and protect the Kurds of Syria following a US green light to a unilateral Turkish military operation.

Lavrov visited Iraq and the Kurdistan Region on Monday to discuss a broad range of topics, including energy ties. Though the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) has long been on bad terms with the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the Kurdish party ruling northeast Syria, Kurdistan Region officials took the opportunity to call on Russia to protect Kurds in Syria.

“President Barzani expressed his worries regarding the future of Kurds in Syria to the Russian Foreign Minister and asked that Russia play its role in case of any event or change to prevent further suffering and pain of the Kurdish people in Syria,” a statement from the office of KDP president and former President of the Kurdistan Region Masoud Barzani read.

Former Iraqi Foreign Minister and KDP Politburo member Hoshyar Zebari attended the meeting, after which he hailed Lavrov’s visit to the Region as “historical” in comments to Rudaw. “We expressed our worry frankly so that the conditions of the areas of Eastern Euphrates, as they call it, do not become destabilized due to any military operation," Zebari said.

"That is why his Excellency President [Masoud Barzani] asked Lavrov to use his influence to prevent any humanitarian tragedy or people fleeing from these areas, so that they don't affect the Kurdistan Region or its conditions.” "The talks were good, and opinions were very similar,” he added.

On Monday, the White House abruptly announced that it would withdraw from Syria, following a Sunday phone call between US President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The announcement was labelled as a “betrayal” by many Kurds, as a US force presence in the area was seen to act as a bastion against a possible Turkish operation in the area. Trump later defended his decision, telling Kurds to “figure the situation out.”


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Rudaw Media Network, also known as Rudaw, is a media group in Iraqi Kurdistan. It publishes in Kurdish, English, Arabic and Turkish.
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