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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump and Giuliani caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
Trump wants people to think that his "lawyer" was working in Ukraine all on his own, without his knowledge or approval. Now he says he doesn't know if Rudy is still his lawyer? Rudy says he may not do any more work in Ukraine. Now that the cookies are gone.
The truth is coming into focus. As is the normal routine in any investigation, follow the money.
Who was paying Rudy? Who was paying his associates that were arrested attempting to leave the country on a one-way ticket to Vienna, Austria?
Vienna, Austria? What the hell is going on in Vienna, Austria?
And the next day, Rudy had a ticket to leave the country. Where was he going? Vienna, Austria!
We can only suppose that Rudy was going to meet up with his old associates in Vienna?
But there was one important character living in Vienna that had been instrumental in manipulating the elections in Ukraine towards candidates that favored Russia and Vladimir Putin. Paul Manafort worked with them to get one elected president of Ukraine. Who was paying Manafort?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-firtash/indicted-giuliani-associate-worked-on-behalf-of-ukrainian-oligarch-firtash-idUSKBN1WQ2H5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Firtash
But this "character" is also running from extradition efforts from the US. His name is Dmytro Firtash.
He may be in even deeper debt to Putin than Trump? It has been reported that he got a $11 billion dollar line of credit from Putin to work on the propaganda campaigns in Ukraine and elsewhere. Ukraine is fighting for its life today.
So Rudy was ready to fly to Vienna, but canceled his flight, after his two Ukrainian associates were arrested just before they boarded a plane, both with one-way tickets. They have since posted bail.
From somewhere in the deep state, someone will be watching.
Were Rudy and his "associates" going to Vienna to meet Firtash? Or someone close to Firtash? Were they going to Vienna to collect their "pay"? After all, they would argue that they did their job by starting the hatchet-job conspiracy theories about Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. Although they don't really know how successful it was? Judging from recent polls, Biden has not lost support, but may have actually gained in the polls?
Then Trump withdraws troops from Syria?
When Donald Trump is asked about Rudy Giuliani, he says, "Rudy who?"
Ignorance may be bliss but it can be dangerous.
It is a battle of technology utilization, a battle of ideologies, a battle of competing propaganda networks, a battle for the future.
Follow the money.
bullimiami
(13,099 posts)Did someone tip them off?
Who, and where did that person get the tip from?
We know
-They were fleeing.
-Rudy met with them the day before.
-Rudy had tix to meet them.
-The WH was informed the day before.
Very fishy.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)Like a big old carp, laying lifeless in the hot sun.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...its hard to find good goulash in DC.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)My mother was from Austria. Since she passed away, its the only way to get good goulash.
She had quite the adventure getting away from Russians back in 1945 prior to meeting my father, who was on a US-funded camping and shooting tour of Europe at the time. We certainly wouldnt go back to meet them.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)How do we know?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)in that little phone video they show those three sending love to and who Giuliani can't wait to see?
Kid Berwyn
(14,911 posts)Its next door in Switzerland. And thanks to current treaties, visitors to Europe can travel pretty easily between nations.