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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:36 AM Oct 2019

Why have we had a personal attorney for Trump

negotiating diplomatic decisions? Why is bypassing our State Department using an amateur negotiator not highly illegal?

Rudy Giuliani is not a federal employee. He has zero competence or authority to be involved in any international discussions regarding U.S. diplomatic policies.

No doubt Donwald J. Trump will now disavow any connection between himself and Giuliani with regard to such efforts. That, of course, will be a total lie.

As far as I'm concerned, all of this should be part of the impeachment of Trump. It is a corruption of our system of government to use people who have no accountability under the law to do one's dirty work. We have a State Department for a number of very good reasons. Bypassing it is unconscionable and should be illegal.

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Why have we had a personal attorney for Trump (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2019 OP
Dunno how much Rudy's doings are illegal, but if State did some of that stuff... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #1
Because that's the way Trump did business The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #2
Yes, exactly. And now, Trump is ready to throw his "good buddy and attorney" MineralMan Oct 2019 #3

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Dunno how much Rudy's doings are illegal, but if State did some of that stuff...
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:39 AM
Oct 2019

it sure would be.

Cabinet departments should not be dealing in black bag ops for the Presidents re-election.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. Because that's the way Trump did business
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:44 AM
Oct 2019

when he was a crooked real estate developer in NYC. Giuliani is his new Michael Cohen, his attorney/fixer/bag man (and may he meet the same fate, only for even longer). Trump has no concept of what it means to be president; he seems to think he's running just another business for his own benefit, so he manages it in exactly the same way as his mobbed-up Trump Organization. I'm sure that as soon as the Feds bust Fat Nosferatu (and it doesn't look like Barr is much inclined to stop Berman from doing that), Fat Nixon will treat him just like he treated Cohen, and just like Cohen, Rudy Colludy will sing like Pavarotti. There is no honor among thieves.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. Yes, exactly. And now, Trump is ready to throw his "good buddy and attorney"
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:49 AM
Oct 2019

under the bus. No doubt, there will be threats designed to keep Ghouliani from turning on Trump. What a sad turn our nation has taken!

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