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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 11:18 AM Oct 2019

Breaking NOLA: Hard Rock Hotel collapses

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/hard-rock-hotel-collapses-on-canal-street/289-930d2437-69fa-4993-a41e-0bd480274f44

Hard Rock Hotel collapses on Canal Street

Breaking news from Downtown New Orleans

Author: Sean Brennan / Eyewitess News

Published: 9:45 AM CDT October 12, 2019
Updated: 10:14 AM CDT October 12, 2019

NEW ORLEANS -- Several construction workers had to run to safety on Saturday morning as a large portion of the Hard Rock Hotel, which has been under construction for the last several months, came crashing down suddenly.

It was not immediately clear what caused the collapse or if anyone was injured.

Eyewitness video provided to WWL-TV shows the moment collapse began.

Upper floors began to fall on top of each other before the Basin Street side of the building fell to the ground below.

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Breaking NOLA: Hard Rock Hotel collapses (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
Uh-oh... MineralMan Oct 2019 #1
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #2
Oops!! hmanne Oct 2019 #3
Looks as though it's mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #4
It is, per the article n/t Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #5
Video of the collapse. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #6
This should work: Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #7
Thank you! Mike 03 Oct 2019 #8
YT changes the link if you've watched any part of the video... Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #9
scary Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #10
👀 damn underpants Oct 2019 #16
Hurry, hurry, hurry, over budget, behind schedule, Hotler Oct 2019 #11
Was wondering about the cause. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #14
Post tension slabs have cable tendons that ... Hotler Oct 2019 #15
Sort of like tightening a bed sheet? miyazaki Oct 2019 #18
What is the advantage of using cable tendons rather than rebar? Chellee Oct 2019 #22
I'm not an engineer. I'm in the structural steel side of construction. My guess is.... Hotler Oct 2019 #24
Well that sucks ornotna Oct 2019 #12
Let me guess: Aristus Oct 2019 #13
My first thought Cirque du So-What Oct 2019 #21
One dead, 18 taken to hospitals, 3 unaccounted for. likesmountains 52 Oct 2019 #17
Not funny anymore. Iggo Oct 2019 #19
omg. thanks for the update. Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #20
OMG. Chellee Oct 2019 #23

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. Video of the collapse.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 11:31 AM
Oct 2019

Unbelievable.

Link:






EDIT: Used "share" link instead. There was something wrong with the old link. Thanks to Dennis Donovan for the tip.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
9. YT changes the link if you've watched any part of the video...
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 11:37 AM
Oct 2019

...and inserts a time stamp. To override it, click on the "Share" arrow below the video and copy that link (make sure the "Start at" checkbox isn't checked).

Hotler

(11,428 posts)
11. Hurry, hurry, hurry, over budget, behind schedule,
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 11:42 AM
Oct 2019

working from permit or bid set construction drawings instead of "For Construction" drawings. Post tension slabs suck, structural steel doesn't fall like that.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
14. Was wondering about the cause.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 11:47 AM
Oct 2019

It's bad enough when old buildings collapse, but it's hard for lay people like myself to understand why brand new or under-construction buildings do. "Post tension slabs"--does this mean the collapse was at the foundation level?

Hotler

(11,428 posts)
15. Post tension slabs have cable tendons that ...
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 12:02 PM
Oct 2019

run all the way thru the slab from edge to edge in a grid like pattern similar to reinforcing steel (rebar). The slab is supported from below with jacks and wood forms. The slab is poured and after 3-4days of the concrete curing, the tendons are pulled tight and the support removed.

http://somerseng.com/post-tension-slabs/


They may have removed supports to early before the concrete cured or, the concrete mix might have been bad.

You never want to see construction mishaps. I'm sure OSHA is onsite by now.

miyazaki

(2,244 posts)
18. Sort of like tightening a bed sheet?
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 12:53 PM
Oct 2019

Makes it more firm and strong eh. My cheap analogy. That's interesting.

Hotler

(11,428 posts)
24. I'm not an engineer. I'm in the structural steel side of construction. My guess is....
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019

the hydraulic units they use can put some serious hurt (tension) on the tendons, a lot more than the rebar could take. It may be a cost thing also, cable tendons every eight feet vs. rebar every three feet.

Cirque du So-What

(25,949 posts)
21. My first thought
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 02:38 PM
Oct 2019

Trade union workers serve an apprenticeship, including classroom and on-the-job training that far surpasses standards for jackleg contractors.

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