Farmers Sticking By Trump Even As Trade Wars Bite

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FRANK MORRIS

Most farmers haven't had a good year since President Trump took office and his policies on trade, immigration and ethanol are part of the problem. Yet farmers, who broadly supported Trump in 2016 are largely sticking with him as the impeachment inquiry moves forward. And if they did abandon him, it may not matter.

Farmer Luke Ulrich says he works at least 12 hours a day, almost every day, tending his crops and cattle near Baldwin City, Kan.

Ulrich anticipates a fairly decent corn and soybean crop this year. But his expenses are so high, and the prices he's getting for his crops and cattle are so low, he's budgeting less than $25,000 in income for the whole year.

"We more or less live off my wife's income," says Ulrich, looking up from the combine he's fixing. "She carries the benefits. If it wasn't for her we'd probably be sunk."

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But, Ulrich is not mad at Trump. He loves Trump's hands-off approach to environmental regulations. And he appreciates the $28 billion aid package that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has distributed to compensate farmers for what they're losing in export sales.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/10/768635489/farmers-sticking-by-trump-even-as-trade-wars-bite

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So this Einstein loves the way that thing is poisoning the environment and he loves socialism. I wish that stupidity was physically painful to the stupid people instead it being painful to us.

[shockey80]

1. Farmers should write a book called,

Suicide for dummies.

[Miguelito Loveless]

2. You cannot help people hell-bent on being stupid.

[AJT]

3. All those years of roundup are catching up with them,

not a brain cell left between them.

[shockey80]

5. This is what happens when you snort cow patties all your life.

[SWBTATTReg]

4. I always wondered what do these farmers and such have against city folk, and vote for scumbags...

such as rump...if rump still continued to have his way (along w/ his cronies), those critical benefits that this particular farmer's wife provides would be gone too (we live off her income/carries the benefits)...I guess this farmer is kind of ignorant too, in that if someone got shot by rump in the middle of the street, he wouldn't care, despite the fact that a crime just occurred. Doesn't the rule of law still apply, regardless of who did the crime and who is the victim? Are people that inconsiderate of our Constitutional and Amendment guarantees?

[Mosby]

6. It's because they hate liberals more than they love America.

[SWBTATTReg]

9. You're right. It's pathetic and sickening. And I bet that the differences between us is ...

probably on 5% of the issues ... I don't have any more compassion for such people (those that cravenly support rump w/o logic and despite the disgusting criminal and sexual behaviors)...and what is even more pathetic and sad about these farmers etc., is that these liberals are their biggest customers being that the overseas markets have collapsed. Farmers and similar groups should be very careful in what they say or do. It might backlash on them.

[Greybnk48]

7. The farmers did this in the late 70's early 80's too. Followed by massive foreclosures

and suicides. They don't seem to ever learn.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087091/

[Midnight Writer]

13. Exactly. We had the Christian Identity and Sovereign Citizen shit here. All Conservative Republicans

Thought Reagan was the Second Coming

But actual farmer and actual devout Christian Jimmy Carter was the Devil Himself.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Sunk cost. They've invested themselves ideologically and emotionally in Trump

and what they think he stands for, and the idea that they could have been wrong, duped by a con man, is too uncomfortable to admit so they double down.

[Newest Reality]

10. Sunk-Cost Fallacy

I wonder how many of them might feel that they have invested something in the rhetoric and might see dropping it as a loss? Although it can be applied to financial matters it is not exclusive to them.

Sunk-Cost Fallacy

(also known as: argument from inertia, concorde fallacy, finish the job fallacy)

Description: Reasoning that further investment is warranted on the fact that the resources already invested will be lost otherwise, not taking into consideration the overall losses involved in the further investment.

Logical Form:

X has already been invested in project Y.

Z more investment would be needed to complete project Y, otherwise X will be lost.

Therefore, Z is justified.

Example #1:

I have already paid a consultant $1000 to look into the pros and cons of starting that new business division. He advised that I shouldn’t move forward with it because it is a declining market. However, if I don’t move forward, that $1000 would have been wasted, so I better move forward anyway.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/173/Sunk-Cost-Fallacy

[oasis]

11. Deplorable dipshits. nt

[Garrett78]

12. 50+ years of increasingly cruel and unhinged rhetoric and policy created a monster.

That monster is the Republican electorate. Trump is a symptom.

[Mariana]

14. A lot of them are Christians

and as we know, many Christian churches have made support for Trump into a tenet of the faith.

[stopdiggin]

15. this is about much more than Trump

there is an anti-government philosophy that is prevalent in rural America (farmers and non). It's been demonstrated numerous times that they do not support efforts to improve peoples lives -- even if it's THEIR OWN LIVES that are being benefited. It's deeply ingrained in their world view. And it's getting worse instead of better.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/opinion/sunday/trump-arkansas.html?

[TheFarseer]

16. Don't overlook how important

Loose environmental regulations are to farmers. Many farmers were especially concerned about the Waters of the USA act which Trump of course wiped his ass on and threw in the nearest trash can. Farmers are always petrified the EPA will take away their land and give it to a duck.

[keithbvadu2]

17. Don't want that damned socialism stuff.

[LeftInTX]

18. Guns, hunting, the EPA, social conservative stuff, not interested in big city stuff

By social conservative I mean: "We have low crime here", "We don't have all those Muslims (insert other group) doing this and that", "we don't have hippies and protests going on around here", "It's quiet and we like it this way" etc etc. I don't necessarily mean religious fanatics.

They like their big trucks and equipment (gas guzzlers), pesticides and GMOs

The people in farming documentaries that are mad at RoundUp are in the minority.