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Fort Worth, Tx officer shoots black woman in her own home...Saturday morning (Original Post) imavoter Oct 2019 OP
Holy shit. cwydro Oct 2019 #1
Officer training sucks for new officers? imavoter Oct 2019 #2
Ah shit!! hmanne Oct 2019 #3
We will soon need LWB bumper stickers malaise Oct 2019 #4
Unlike Guyger, I won't be surprised if this guy walks completely free Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #5
She was playing video games with her nephew... imavoter Oct 2019 #7
I may have misinterpreted the video Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #10
Seems like a cop who wasn't ready Hav Oct 2019 #6
I won't watch. imavoter Oct 2019 #8
There could be more to this story. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #9
Watching the video it's hard to say what else more there could be Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #12
she was home playing video games with her 8 year old nephew imavoter Oct 2019 #15
I agree. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #17
Gotcha. I'm just a bit sensitive to defense of these things Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #18
ACAB. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #11
Question: hmanne Oct 2019 #13
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #14
Alot are also combat vets with multiple deployments hmanne Oct 2019 #16
Do you have evidence / links GP6971 Oct 2019 #19
About 20 percent of cops are veterans. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #21
Thanks!! Appreciate it! n/t GP6971 Oct 2019 #24
Here's a pretty good article about combat vets becoming police officers hmanne Oct 2019 #23
Many Thanks for the link!! n/t GP6971 Oct 2019 #25
So that was a welfare check was it? icymist Oct 2019 #20
I don't live over there but here's a link to those who do imavoter Oct 2019 #22
I have left my door open by mistake a couple of times. Blue_true Oct 2019 #28
I hope nobody calls in a welfare check on me IronLionZion Oct 2019 #26
Blue Knights of the KKK spike jones Oct 2019 #27
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #29

imavoter

(646 posts)
2. Officer training sucks for new officers?
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:36 PM
Oct 2019

Cop walked around the house and never identified himself.
Shot her through a window.

The neighbor who called in for a welfare check is torn up.

I know many good cops. But just going boom?
What the actual???

 

hmanne

(92 posts)
3. Ah shit!!
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:41 PM
Oct 2019

Another POC killed by a white cop.

Judging by the initial reports, this seems to be an unjustified homicide.

malaise

(269,056 posts)
4. We will soon need LWB bumper stickers
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

as in living while black. We aren't safe anywhere not even in our fucking homes.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
5. Unlike Guyger, I won't be surprised if this guy walks completely free
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:46 PM
Oct 2019

They will say some bullshit about how he feared for his life. I hope I am wrong, but I don't have much hope since he was responding to a call and she did have firearm either on or near her. Of course neither of those justify shooting someone in their own house after sneaking around without announcing themselves (didn't appear they did in the video), but they seem to find ways to justify anything.

imavoter

(646 posts)
7. She was playing video games with her nephew...
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:51 PM
Oct 2019

According to a post with family info.

FTW police have already released video footage and he did not identify himslef. He shot her through a window. I figure they will throw him under the bus

I think the family has already gotten with Lee Merrit.

She didn't have her gun on her.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
10. I may have misinterpreted the video
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:07 PM
Oct 2019

They show some still shots, I got the initial impression that it was a still shot from the video that was released.

I did go back and now I am not sure that's what they were showing,but rather were being sneaky about their editing. But either way, I don't see how it would matter even if she had it on her. She was in her home and the police were creepily sneaking around her backyard without announcing themselves. Most normal people should be able to identify with the victim and think about how fucked up it would be if they were murdered in their own home after investigating a noise in their backyard.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. Seems like a cop who wasn't ready
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:49 PM
Oct 2019

He joined the department recently but I don't know whether he was new on the job.
From the reports it seems it was a Hands up demand and rather quickly followed by the deadly shot. I'd be mortified if someone had entered my house and I'd probably not be able to just raise my hands. Not to mention that sudden movements in the dark are also dangerous.

I wonder what the consequences will be if there will be any. I cannot stomach watching this kind of footage should it ever be made public but I suppose for a jury it will also depend how much time she even had to react.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
9. There could be more to this story.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:00 PM
Oct 2019

Who knows?

But if there's not more to this story, then here is what I'd like to see happen:

I think the police officer should face the same consequences that I would (I've pretty much given up on the whole 'higher standards' thing), if I looked into somebody else's house, and then saw them, and shot them to death.

Even if I was honestly mistaken, and/or scared, I wouldn't even be going to trial. I'd be negotiating a plea bargain, then going to prison.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
12. Watching the video it's hard to say what else more there could be
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:11 PM
Oct 2019

They were sneaking around someone's backyard with no signs of announcing themselves, and then they looked into her windows and shot her. It doesn't matter if there was a gun in the house or not. Police cannot do that to people. How are people supposed to know those are police and not people trying break into their homes to cause them harm?

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
17. I agree.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:37 PM
Oct 2019

That's why the main point of my post was about what I think should happen if there wasn't more to the story.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
18. Gotcha. I'm just a bit sensitive to defense of these things
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:55 PM
Oct 2019

after having arguments with real life people over how they thought Amber Guyger was somehow wronged by being sentenced to 10 years. It's wasn't a lot of people, but the fact there were any non-connected (as in not her close friends or family) people defending her just blows my mind.

Response to hmanne (Reply #13)

 

hmanne

(92 posts)
16. Alot are also combat vets with multiple deployments
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

who are too quick on the trigger and view those that aren't cops as perceived enemies.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
21. About 20 percent of cops are veterans.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:09 PM
Oct 2019

According to The Marshall Project, there is a correlation between veteran status and likelihood of shooting their firearms while on the job, but it is difficult to study because of the lack of records.

imavoter

(646 posts)
22. I don't live over there but here's a link to those who do
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:09 PM
Oct 2019

A friend has posts from a local minister that has been with the family.


https://m.facebook.com/kyev.tatum/videos/10219660422196991/

All kinds of things on his page

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. I have left my door open by mistake a couple of times.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:22 PM
Oct 2019

One time a neighbor noticed and instead of calling police, he came over unarmed and knocked. I love to sleep in the dark, lights non-existent. I can imagine what could happen if a police officer was checking my home by moving around unannounced. How would I know he or she was police instead of a burgular or worse?

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
26. I hope nobody calls in a welfare check on me
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:29 PM
Oct 2019

it sounds deadly.

Dark skinned people will always be "a dark figure" who "may have a weapon". And the officer assessed all of that from outside the house looking through a window, and then shooting the dark figure through the window.

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